• Home
  • About
    • What’s happening here
    • Greg Sandow
    • Contact
  • AJBlogs
  • ArtsJournal

Sandow

Greg Sandow on the future of classical music

Passionate cause

September 26, 2010 by Greg Sandow

As long as I’m giving space to people who disagree with me, let me give AC Douglas a shout.

When he last commented here, on June 22, he put the old debate about the comparative value of pop and classical music in what, for him, is its most important context:

It’s NOT a question of “best” or “better-than”. It’s a question, rather, of comparing the artifacts of two essentially incommensurable aesthetic hierarchies which can “no more be compared than one can compare, delectable-wise, the proverbial apples and oranges on the same delectability continuum of things-that-one-can-eat-that-grow-on-trees,” as I’ve elsewhere put it.

Postmodern dogma — which is, at once, both a horrific and risible <i>reductio ad absurdum</i> of Sixties cultural thought, and which “seeks a dissolution of all hierarchies, both natural and culturally determined without distinction” as we’ve written previously elsewhere — is another culprit here, and it’s as wrongheaded and boneheaded as it could possibly be. Hierarchies are essential to the well-being of Homo sapiens, and there’s just no getting around that. It’s in our DNA as it’s in the DNA of all living things, also as we’ve written previously elsewhere, and any attempt to circumvent that ineluctable fact of life is doomed, ultimately, to abject failure, and the attempt itself certain to leave by the wayside scores upon scores of unnecessary and regrettable casualties.

[…]

We’ve no argument with, nor objection to, the artifacts of popular culture per se. What we argue against, and lodge objection to, is the growing absence of a fundamental aesthetic distinction between, and separate hierarchies of aesthetic value for, such artifacts and the artifacts of the realm of high culture (so-called to distinguish it from the popular sort). Contrary to the pernicious equalitarian conceits of postmodern thinking, there is such a distinction; a self-evident and inarguably real one … and no meaningful aesthetic continuum connecting the artifacts of the two realms can be constructed except on the merest technical and taxonomic grounds.</blockquote>

This is all covered in some detail in my 2006 S&F post, “A Call For A Return To Hierarchal Sobriety”, which can be read here..

In that essay, you’ll find AC’s passionate belief that art created in the high-culture realm aspires to transcendence, while things created in the realm of popular culture — however powerful or affecting they might be — don’t have that aspiration. Thus high and popular culture exist in separate aesthetic realms, with the high-culture realm ranking higher in the all-important hierarchies of life.

It’s not exactly news that I don’t agree with this, but so what? I’m touched by AC’s passion, and I admire him for waging what must sometimes be a lonely struggle. I hope that people who agree with him will read his essay, and join him in his fight for what he believes.

Filed Under: Uncategorized

Comments

  1. Lyle Sanford says

    September 26, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    Hi, Greg – I first wrote in to you way back when to say how impressed I was with your dealing with folks who disagree with you. This is an example of your still doing so. So many folks on the web simply dismiss those they disagree with, forming these like minded cliques and talking just to one another. I’ve been a regular reader of AC Douglas for years and have learned a lot from his writing.

    I strongly support what you’re up to, but understand where ACD is coming from. My hope is that in the end it won’t be an either/or situation when it all shakes out.

    Thanks, Lyle. Much appreciated. I can be harsh, sometimes, when I get caught up in the heat of debate. But I try to remember that the people I’m disagreeing with are human, just as I am.

  2. erik says

    September 27, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Thank you for sharing this context with us, very much appreciated.

Greg Sandow

Though I've been known for many years as a critic, most of my work these days involves the future of classical music -- defining classical music's problems, and finding solutions for them. Read More…

About The Blog

This started as a blog about the future of classical music, my specialty for many years. And largely the blog is still about that. But of course it gets involved with other things I do — composing music, and teaching at Juilliard (two courses, here … [Read More...]

Follow Us on FacebookFollow Us on TwitterFollow Us on RSS

Archives

@gsandow

Tweets by @gsandow

Resources

How to write a press release

As a footnote to my posts on classical music publicists, and how they could do better, here's a post I did in 2005 -- wow, 11 years ago! --  about how to make press releases better. My examples may seem fanciful, but on the other hand, they're almost … [Read More...]

The future of classical music

Here's a quick outline of what I think the future of classical music will be. Watch the blog for frequent updates! I Classical music is in trouble, and there are well-known reasons why. We have an aging audience, falling ticket sales, and — in part … [Read More...]

Timeline of the crisis

Here — to end my posts on the dates of the classical music crisis  — is a detailed crisis timeline. The information in it comes from many sources, including published reports, blog comments by people who saw the crisis develop in their professional … [Read More...]

Before the crisis

Yes, the classical music crisis, which some don't believe in, and others think has been going on forever. This is the third post in a series. In the first, I asked, innocently enough, how long the classical music crisis (which is so widely talked … [Read More...]

Four keys to the future

Here, as promised, are the key things we need to do, if we're going to give classical music a future. When I wrote this, I was thinking of people who present classical performances. But I think it applies to all of us — for instance, to people who … [Read More...]

Age of the audience

Conventional wisdom: the classical music audience has always been the age it is now. Here's evidence that it used to be much younger. … [Read More...]

Return to top of page

an ArtsJournal blog

This blog published under a Creative Commons license

Copyright © 2025 · Magazine Pro Theme on Genesis Framework · WordPress · Log in