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Max Roach

August 16, 2007 by Doug Ramsey

Max Roach died early this morning at the age of eighty-three. Phone calls and e-mail messages announcing his passing and commenting on his importance have been pouring in all day.
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Max Roach
As a teenager, Roach began developing a way of drumming that grew out of the bop pioneer Kenny Clarke and was also profoundly affected by Sid Catlett. By the mid-1940s, Roach was the premier innovator among bebop drummers, with virtuosity, complexity and subtlety that made him perfect for the rhythm sections of Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie and Bud Powell, his peers in bebop. Virtually all drummers in modern jazz patterned themselves to some degree on Roach. It is unlikely that drummers as disparate in style as Elvin Jones and Paul Motian, Ben Riley and James Black, Arthur Taylor and Mel Lewis would have developed as they did without Roach’s example.
For an outline of his career and appreciation of his artistry, see the obituary by Peter Keepnews in The New York Times and another by Ron Wynn in Nashville’s The City Paper.
YouTube has dozens of clips of Roach playing. This short video from fairly late in his career is a good one to start with. It captures Max looking handsome, healthy and happy — and playing a typically inventive solo.
WKCR, the radio station of Columbia University is devoting its schedule through next Wednesday to Roach’s music. In the New York area, tune in to 89.9 FM. Elsewhere, you’ll find WKCR’s streaming internet audio by clicking here.
I cherish remembrance of two occasions with Roach. The first was in New York in the early 1970s. I was at Lincoln Center covering a rehearsal for a concert that night at Avery Fisher Hall. By noon, my UPITN camera crew had enough material. I sent them back to the bureau to have the film processed and was heading off to find lunch when Dizzy Gillespie said, “You’re coming with us.” I ended up in a restaurant across the street with Dizzy, Percy Heath, Billy Eckstine, Max Roach and Roach’s young wife. As we were settling in, Fats Waller’s “Your Feet’s Too Big” materialized on the sound system. The table conversation continued, but Max announced, “Quiet. I haven’t heard this in years.” So, we all stayed mostly silent for three minutes, listened to Fats and watched Roach’s grin.
In 1981 when I was news director at KGO-TV in San Francisco, Roach was playing with his quintet at the Keystone Korner. That was the week of the annual contest to choose the best bell ringer among San Francisco’s cable car gripmen and conductors. I told Todd Barkan, who ran the club, that if he could arrange for Roach and the winner of the contest to get together, we’d send a crew. Barkan was leery; he wasn’t sure that the dignified Mr. Roach would go for what he might consider a gimmick.
Max liked the idea. The winner, Carl Payne, a gripman who over the years won the contest ten times, showed up one afternoon at Keystone Korner with a cable car bell something like this one.Bell.jpgRoach was waiting at his drum set. Mr. Payne could meter on that brass bell. He invented patterns that stimulated Max and the two spent a half hour or so playing for, to and with one another. I have never heard anything quite like it — Max Roach trading fours with a cable car gripman. It made a good story on that evening’s six o’clock newscast, and a memory that has stayed with me for a quarter of a century.
Writing this, I began wondering what had become of Carl Payne and tracked him down. We had a fine conversation. He told me that he joined the San Francisco Municipal Transit Agency in the early 1960s after he did his stint as a US Marine Corps military policeman in Viet Nam. He worked on the cable cars until 1990. Then he took a new job as an officer with the San Francisco Police Department, where he still works as a beat cop in China Town and on Union Square. Every year at the cable car bell ringing contest, he is an honored guest. He told me that at the demonstration ring-offs, he always wins.
Payne treasures his encounter with Roach. When I told him about Max’s death, he paused a moment, then said, “Oh, man, he was the nicest guy.”

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  1. Ken Dryden says

    August 17, 2007 at 5:33 am

    Thanks for sharing the story about Max Roach’s meeting with Carl Payne, the winner of the cable car bell-ringing contest. That would be an interesting video to see posted on YouTube!

  2. Michael J. West says

    August 17, 2007 at 7:08 am

    As one who never saw Max play (much less met him), it’s wonderful to read all the memories of those who did today. (I wrote a short obit for him on the Washington City Paper’s music blog yesterday.)
    Somehow one thing that occurs to me is that he was the last surviving member of the original Charlie Parker Quintet. Rightly or wrongly, it feels as though wih Max’s passing goes the remains of that whole jazz generation.

  3. Steve Cerra says

    August 17, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    Thank you for your loving and caring remarks and rememberances upon the passing of Max Roach. A photo of Max graces the dust jacket of Burt Korall’s “Drummin’ Men: The Bebop Years” and your readers might be interested to know that Burt’s excellent book contains an insightful chapter on Max and his unique contributions to the instrument. I agree with Stan Levey when he states in his testimonial header to Burt’s chapter on Max: “I loved and admired Max. He has [had] a special gift that’s given to very few.”

  4. Robert Walsh says

    August 18, 2007 at 12:22 pm

    The mention of Mel Lewis in your Max Roach item reminded me of my having met Mel back in the 80s when I was living in Greenwich, CT. Mel, recovering from lung surgery, was playing in a small backup group in a freebie concert in the Stamford Mall. He asked me at the break how I had gotten interested in jazz. I mentioned that it basically dated back to the late 1930s when I was a pre-teen and my uncle sang and performed a baton-twirling specialty with Horace Heidt…along with Alvino Rey, Bobby Hackett, Art Carney, Lou Busch and drummer Bernie Mattison. Mel expressed amazement; Bernie M was his mentor. Mel was a school-kid in Buffalo who was often used as a ringer in a Heidt band-leading competition like Sammy Kaye’s better-known shtick. After a few klutzy locals got laughs and razzes, Mel was “somehow” called up from the assemblage, only to demonstrate gee-whiz drumnastics. He won a token prize, of course, but best of all he was always allowed to sit unobserved behind Bernie M on the bandstand to learn how big-band drumming was done.
    Seems to me Heidt hired a lot of pretty solid jazzmen over the years, besides those mentioned. (I understand Heidt, Jr. is compiling a book on his dad’s career and may develop that theme.) But the winner in that category must have been Arthur Godfrey, whose radio and tv backup bands were loaded with people like Remo Palmier and Tyree Glenn. I overheard Hank Jones, a Godfrey longtime hiree, telling John Lewis of MJQ backstage at the Smithsonian that Godfrey, despite the many bad things said about him, “personally kept the jazz fraternity alive in New York City for many years.” Has Godfrey ever gotten proper credit for this?

  5. Jenny says

    October 18, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    I’d also love to see that Roach/Payne collaboration dug out, dusted off and YouTube’d. What fun! During the cable car hiatus in the 80’s Carl Payne drove the 38 Geary. I spent many an afternoon on the way home from high school with him, he’s a truly great guy. I think of him often and wish him well.

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