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How Cage Makes Us Philosophize

January 20, 2016 by Kyle Gann

One name that musicians may run across often in the literature on John Cage and not recognize is Richard Fleming. He’s a philosophy professor at Bucknell University, a friend of mine for twenty-five years, and he edited, among others, two books with our mutual friend Bill Duckworth, John Cage at Seventy-Five and Sound and Light: La Monte Young and Marian Zazeela. Richard spent a lot of time with Cage, and teaches a fascinating-sounding course, in the philosophy department, comparing the respective Harvard Lectures of Cage and Leonard Bernstein – almost unimaginable, since Bernstein’s lectures are about the underlying grammar of music and Cage’s are chance-determined words and phonemes. A lot of the material, heavily involving Wittgenstein as well, ended up in his beautiful little treatise Evil and Silence.

Anyway, due to problems with publishers similar to ones I’ve encountered in recent years, Richard has decided to publish his long article on Cage via the internet, and here it is:

Listening to Cage: Nonintentional philosophy and music.

I’ve been saying for years (as you all know) that Cage wasn’t a philosopher, by which I have meant that Cage’s writings don’t fit the genre of philosophy as I know it. But Richard tackles the issue head on, and insists that Cage was a philosopher in a very different sense, in that his music makes us rethink our concepts of the world. “Listening to Cage,” he writes,

awakens and stirs us to resist, accept, embrace, reflect, frown, laugh, question, affirm, challenge, walk away, dance, and talk. It brings to mind the brackets or conditions of possibility, the agreements, which govern what we do. This is nonintentional philosophy and music.

He quotes Wittgenstein frequently: “[P]hilosophical problems arise when ‘I don’t know my way about’; and then new questions come to mind,” and this is the state of mind Cage’s music induces. And he closes with a meditation on the tape piece Fontana Mix:

Having provided a grammatical place for our talk and listening, we end this brief excursion in nonintentional philosophy and music by answering more directly our original question about Fontana Mix: Why would we listen to this? It is not hard, now, to suggest that listening to Fontana Mix awakens us from the tired standards and routines in which we find ourselves. It agitates and reorients our sense of importance. It tests our sense of mistake, interruption, ruin, and justification. It clears the ground for questioning our concepts anew.

It’s a deeply-considered article and very elegantly written, and ever since I read an earlier version of it several months ago I’ve been soft-pedaling the Cage-not-being-a-philosopher notion. I am convincible, and Richard’s too brilliant to argue with.

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  1. Allan J. Cronin says

    January 20, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    Wow! Thanks for this. I am not familiar with Fleming’s work. Sounds fascinating. I will check it out.
    I have generally liked Richard Kostelanetz’ work on Cage and I loved your book on 4’33” but I found Kenneth Silvermann’s biography pretty lackluster. We do need a comprehensive bio on Cage. Maybe for your next book?

    KG replies: Nah, I’m done with Cage. There are too many other composers to go on to, and Cage is well-covered.

  2. Arthur says

    January 21, 2016 at 10:26 am

    Much depends on the definition of philosophy, what areas of philosophy you considers and who is a philosopher. Fleming, as in his “Evil and Silence,” makes the case largely via American pragmatic traditions and thought, through language philosophy of Wittgenstein and JL Austin as well as a allusions to very selective ‘music’ theory (which borders on philosophy). But Wittgenstein and Austin are also concerned with ethics, as is Cage. I’ve always argued Cage’s musical art is inseparable from his writing and speaking and his entire project is, as Fleming and others show, interdependent with language. (I’d say the same concerning Ashley.) Even having said that, there is no doubt that Cage’s work and writing is philosophically informed and its various basic principles are consistently explored and developed (see the opening pages of “Themes and Variations”). It seems to me that there can not even be a question that, in addition to matters Fleming pursues, Cage’s engagement with Indian and Asian thought, in practice and texts, also circles around philosophy, or combines a moral and “spiritual’ thought with aesthetics. Which is to say, that, for sure, though not a member of any professional/academic philosophical group, Cage is a philosopher of in the area of aesthetics and, from time to time, he is acknowledged as such. I would be more particular is calling his work, ethical aesthetics or ethical musical aesthetics -and there is a long tradition of such thought.

    Thanks for calling attention to Fleming’s post.

  3. Lois Svard says

    January 21, 2016 at 11:36 am

    Thanks so much for posting about Richard’s work, Kyle! I have a fond memory of Richard inviting me to do a performance of 4’33” in a philosophy class and the fascinating conversation that followed. It’s great to have access to his article.

  4. Susan Scheid says

    January 22, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    This is heady stuff in the best sort of way. I’m needing to read it bit by bit, but I really enjoy and appreciate Fleming’s writing style and his way of structuring the discussion. Though I doubt I would have shared his response, his story about Mahler’s Ninth at Carnegie Hall (n. 15) is nonetheless right on Cage-ian point.

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