For hundreds of years people believed that water contracts when it freezes. Why? Because Aristotle said so, and Aristotle was an unimpeachable authority. During hundreds of winters someone could have learned the truth and refuted the great man by leaving a bottle of water outside on a frosty night, but the force of authority overruled experience.

I think that one of the best things about the way Wikipedia works is that people with direct experience can edit articles. You can sign up and simply edit the page, you know.
KG replies: 1. No I can’t. If my source for the fact that there are 23 crotales gestures is myself, and I can’t footnote a printed source, then it’s inadmissible. 2. I’m too proud of my writing skills to craft sentences that any ignorant teenager can come along and irrevocably deface. Lost interest in that. But it seemed public spirited to inform someone of the false information.
If you published an analysis of Stockhausen’s Mantra, you could then go back and cite that publication as your source. Such are the arcane ways of Wikipedia.
I have some sympathy for the rule, in that they are trying to keep out vanity entries. Sadly, it’s amazing how filled up with vanity entries Wikipedia actually is.
KG replies: But it’s even more arcane than that. Back when I did a little writing for them, other writers challenged me even for quoting my own (peer-reviewed, academic-press) books, as though I were only trying to draw attention to my publications. It’s why their expert-retention level is so low.
I had a similar experience with the Eroica article: when I tried to cite the score itself, I was told this didn’t meet their verification criteria.
It needs be pointed out that there are two places where Wikipedia excels: information from the hard sciences (including technology in general), and recent cultural ephemera.
KG replies: Agreed – at least, certainly seems to be true of the former and is with the latter.
I don’t think there were water bottles in the Middle Ages.
KG replies: Well ceramics would have done.
I’ve gone around with Jerry on a few Stockhausen articles myself, and while it is frustrating to deal with overzealous editors, Jerry is thankfully not one of those. Moreover, he’s done real yeoman’s work in getting a ton of information on Wikipedia.
In a film or a book article, the material is the source, and it isn’t original research, for instance, to say that Darth Vader is Luke’s father, because that is evidenced by The Empire Strikes Back. The same policy should be true for musical compositions. I don’t know why it isn’t.
That being said, if a little silliness among editors is the price to pay for an open-source encyclopedia, I think that’s a fair enough trade off. The somewhat nonsensical ban on ‘original research’ is one of the bulwarks against Wikipedia falling into complete uselessness.
KG replies: I had assumed the misstatement wasn’t Jerome Kohl’s, because I’d been given to understand that he’s a Stockhausen scholar. But he certainly is defending it at length.
The false claim that Wikipedia is reliable for hard science info has only gained wide currency because so few people have detailed knowledge of the arcane fields of hard science with which Wikipedia articles deal.
Let’s take several sepcific examples. This article on M-theory presents M theory as though it were a recognized complete theory of physics. In fact, it is not a theory, since it does not make any testable predications: and in fact M-theory is so grossly inchoate that no one can even agree on what the letter “M” stands for. This article is complete mess, a dog’s breakfast, and anyone who knows anything about high-energy physics would find it laughable and wildly inaccurate.
Likewise, Wikipedia’s discussion of catastrophe theory is thoroughly incorrect and entirely inaccurate. That disastrously bad article falsely claims:
Bifurcation theory studies and classifies phenomena characterized by sudden shifts in behavior arising from small changes in circumstance…
This is so vague and hopelessly incoherent that it’s entirely wrong — insofar as it makes an sense at all. What is the mathematical meaning of a ‘change in circumstance”? It’s gibberish. Moreover, many types of phenomena are characterized by sudden shifts in behavior arising from small changes — chaos theory, nonlinear dynamics, caustics, the behavior around a cusp, many different kinds of systems exhibit this behavior, but almost none of ‘em can be described by catastrophe theory.
In actual fact, catastrophe theory uses a geometric model of a dynamical system in which the manifold exhibits a sudden shear. At the shear point, the variables change drastically, typically reversing sign. This isn’t true of chaos theory or most nonlinear dynamical systems, but the authors of this godawful article are too ignorant and too incompetent to know that.
Anyone who relies on any Wikipedia article is a fool. Wikipedia is riddled with gross misinformation from top to bottom. None of the articles are remotely reliable. Many of the Wikipedia articles, such as the articles about rational expectation theory in economics, are chock full of outright lies written by partisan ideologues with an axe to grind.
KG replies: Happy to take your word for it.
“Some Great White Hope who’s now probably teaching set theory analysis somewhere…”
I don’t know about Mantra or Wikipedia, but I wanted to comment on how much I love this phrase. I know EXACTLY the kind of student/scholar that you mean by it!