Tempo Canon Roll Call

Kyle, please post a MP3. It can't be any more hokey than some of my MIDI-generated scores.

In Finale, which is what I use, one can do multiple meters. But as far as I have been able to tell, that might not translate into playback the way you intend it to. I can research it some more on the Finale Forum if you'd like.

That list is pretty comprehensive. I love the Spectral Canon---great work by Tenney.

Placed in your research published in "Contemporary Music Review," Volume 10, Part 1 (pp. 46-47), you indicate Larry Polansky's famous "Four Voice Canon #5 " - part of a magisterial series of short works of his - and the prolific and ubiquitous Ben Neill's "Antiphony" both to be representative examples of recent tempo canons to be considered.

James Tenney definitely made a nice point with his piece.

KG replies: Thanks, had forgotten the Neill.

Perhaps Arvo Pärt's Arbos, and the Cantus in Memory of Benjamin Britten...

KG replies: Really? *Tempo* canons? I had no idea. Need to brush up on my Pärt.

It will be a dark day when composers begin exercising self-censorship on the grounds of keeping potential hokieness from making its way to the public. Throw it all out there and let your readers decide, I say. Hokieness didn't deter Beethoven.

Larry Polansky!

KG replies: Got him. He may have others besides the Four-Voice Canons, though.

In the Cantus five voices are playing the same melody (just a descending natural minor scale that unwinds a note at a time -- A AG AGF AGFE etc.) in duration proportions of 1:2:4:8:16. Would you call that a "tempo canon" or do you make a distinction between that and other kinds of mensuration canons (I've heard the Pärt called an "augmentation canon")?

KG replies: I suppose that one could make a distinction based on the fact that half-notes moving against whole notes don't necessarily articulate a different tempo, but in the spirit of theoretical ecumenicism I am willing to include all augmentation canons under the tempo canon umbrella. I'll have to get a score to that.

Very much of my own work is at least close to tempo canon, but only few pieces get to be anything like strict tempo canons. In particular, one of my very few unperformed pieces is News from the Sun, which is something of an afterthought to Toccata III for 2 Glockenspiele (a fragment of which is on my site).

In News from the Sun, I just have three pages of music all based on harmonic variations with one melodic shape. The performers play in the tempo relationship 3 to 5, with the faster part playing his part 5 times and the slower part three times; so they do begin and end together and there are three points of convergence.

I think it's a big challenge, if only not to go crazy while playing, it's already quite dizzying to play only one part. If any percussionists reading this would like to give it a shot, I'm happy to send the score out.

What about Ockeghem's Mass?

Thanks for the MP3. If you want, Kyle, feel free to send me the MIDI file and I'll see what I can do with it using some piano samples. It's the least I can do.

What Tom describes in Arvo Pärt's music - "Cantus.." was the mensuration canon, a medieval-era technique whereby the melody was given proportionate rhythmic values of equal distribution, values of voices being twice as long as others, and on, and on.

But I found a very interesting article regards a Super Collider2 application, a microtonal tempo canon generator (with a limit to eight voices) just now. David Jaffe contributes. The article, written by the Englishman Nick Collins, seems thorough enough, and I would include the link here, and am submitting a URL under my name (see above). This link is a PDF file.

To wit, the Europeans Ockeghem, de Demarto, and Dufay composed the way Kyle did, as did Nancarrow, although many did not, I suppose. Still, in particular, the Missa Prolationem, by the ancient Johannes Ockeghem, was definitely the greatest example of canonic virtuosity within the canon. But I'm also reminded of the medieval European techniques of use of the "talea" and "color" - asserting something different and still not quite American by way of Tom Johnson in his Rational Melodies, for example. I hadn't tried the technique yet.

I remember Voyetra! My first sequencer program in 1993 or so was Voyetra, and I think it was an old version then because it came free with a MIDI interface, was DOS based, and only had a the piano-roll view. I upgraded to Cakewalk as soon as we got sweet, sweet Windows 3.1

Is there a reason not to include the Reich phase pieces in this list? I could see excluding the ones, like "Piano Phase", where one person speeds up and slows down in order to effect the phasing and then lock in at the new tempo, but it seems like "It's Gonna Rain" would be a pretty strict tempo canon.

And then there's this piece of mine: www.galenbrown.com/audio/GalenHBrown--Chorale.mp3
It's from 2004, and it's called "Chorale." It's for "two" sampled pianos or two Disclaviers. The tempo ratio is 136:143 The two pianos play the same material at slightly different tempi, starting 8 bars apart, and converging on the downbeat of measure 144. The last 20 bars or so are a non-canonic coda.

KG replies: I should have known you had something, Galen, and I think you must deserve credit for being the first composer anywhere to use the ratio 136:143 for *anything*. (Although I think Elliott Carter uses 175:216 in Night Fantasies.) And (sigh) I suppose we'd better include the Reich pieces for theoretical completeness, though it seems like cheating somehow.

Really nice piece, by the way. I'll put it up on Postclassic Radio when I get back to that.

Lord, I'm dense; please, remind me not to comment whilst cramming a giant Cuban sammich in my face. Of course I was thinking of the Four-Voice Canons. My eye skipped right over them in your list.

By way of atonement, I've done a quick google search and come up with another pair of names: Louis Andriessen (in Trilogy of the Last Day) and Roger Reynolds (in that Pulitzer piece). I just happened to download a recording of the Reynolds--I'll have to give it a closer listen.

Anyhow, as long as I'm here, what does distinguish a tempo canon from a prolation canon? What I don't know could fill a warehouse.

KG replies: Ah, you and me both, Dan, on all counts. I should have known about the Reynolds piece, I wrote the liner notes for the CD lo these many years ago. In a prolation canon (without wanting to go back and look up exact details), a long note is divided into three in one prolation (like 3/2), but only two in another (2/2), so that the same line will be interpreted as dotted whole notes in 3/2 but regular whole notes in 2/2. And that 3:2 works on two different levels. But when you get down to the level of faster notes (quarters or halves, depending on your transcription ratio), the notes are all the same regardless of prolation. Ockeghem gets out of his tempo canons by moving to shorter notes toward the end of every movement.

Hi Kyle,

To answer your question concerning Sibelius: I upgraded to Sibelius 5 about four months ago, and it is just as much of a pain in the ass to do true multi-meter and tempo canons as it was in sibelius 4 (I never used any versions before those two, as I was still doing everything by hand). I just spent roughly a month wrestling (read: hiding tuplets, rests, and barlines) with said program to get five parts into assymetrical loops of three different time signatures (at the same time) alternating with free time, and it still does not look right (but I am fairly certain it looks as good as it possibly can for the time being).

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm considering buying adobe illustrator for overall organization, and using sibelius for mere note entry and spacing within parts.

rumor has it that lilypond can do accurate scores with different times in each part because you are merely telling it where to put graphics, so it doesn't have to do the calculations the other notation programs do. i'm still hoping to get some time to learn this program and see if it's true. then, kyle, i can give you a score to that string octet instead of eight parts. =)

doesn't bach have some tempo canons in a musical offering? then there's that Fritz Jöde book "Der Kanon" -- that's got to have some examples. I'll check when I get home.

KG replies: Shit!, I meant the Musical Offering instead of the Art of Fugue, of course, and no one caught me on it. (I've changed it.) Whither musical literacy? Art Jarvinen's always touting a notation software called Score that is entirely graphics, no sequencing, so the score can look any way you want. But I'm so addicted to sequencing because I do so much MIDI stuff...

Wow, I was disappointed that I missed the Bach. I wasn't quite feeling right about the Art of the Fugue, and knew about the canonic variations of the Musical Offering from reading/scanning the popular layman's book from the 70's (or 80's?) Gödel, Escher, Bach" or two ago. Musical literacy, indeed!

On a different note, I like how this conversation has mentioned much about the different type of notation software other than Finale and Sibelius. I think it's cool, and I'd like to research them.

Actually when it comes to notating multiple meters or tempos I found that the best solution is to use a design program in addition to a music notation program such as Finale or Sibelius. I make tiff images of the music and then paste them into the design document. This can be done even using a word processing program such as Word. Just paste the different music staves as tiffs.
Elodie

Hey Kyle, I wrote a four voice tempo canon for movement 8 of my piece Tools. Each voice comes in at 4:3 of the voice before it.

By the way, I've been reading Music Downtown a lot the last couple of months - it's very inspiring.

Cheers, Ned

KG replies: Hi Ned, glad to know it. I'll take another listen. I've got some of your music up on Postclassic Radio.

James Tenney also wrote the Chromatic Canon (for Steve Reich), which features a tone row built up in repeating patterns of steady eighths; two pianos phasing against one another as pitches/eighths are added sooner in one part than the other. The parts share a constant single pulse and note values, but it's as succinct as the Spectral Canon, if not nearly as complex.

KG replies: Well, maybe we'll need to make a list of postclassical non-tempo canons as well.

Hey, I'm glad you posted that. It's not 'hoki' at all, just a little bit distorted from being on an old tape. Similar quality to FM radio, no problem at all with that. And I liked the piece, very listenable.

hi kyle

have you been able to discover a music notation program that can notate and play back multi-tempo compositions?

please let me know what is possible

best
sean

KKG replies: Not as such, and I keep sending out general queries. But of course I do my electonic/Disklavier pieces in Sibelius using complex tuplets, the empty brackets of which are easy to repeat from measure to measure, and you can even make the brackets invisible if you want. My 23:24 tempo canon is notated and plays back in Sibelius, but it was a pain in the tuckus and doesn't play back terribly well:

http://www.kylegann.com/TheConventatTepoztlan.pdf