{"id":93,"date":"2008-05-22T11:19:00","date_gmt":"2008-05-22T15:19:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp\/2008\/05\/the_new_future\/"},"modified":"2011-04-28T16:34:42","modified_gmt":"2011-04-28T20:34:42","slug":"the_new_future","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2008\/05\/the_new_future.html","title":{"rendered":"The new future"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I heard the future here and now &#8212; let&#8217;s call it the present! &#8212; in the form of trumpeter<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JV_Giyf2phk\"> Igmar Thomas &amp; The Cypher<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0with MC <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=nS3euQi9-9g&amp;feature=related\">Raydar Ellis<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0the other night at a public party produced by <a href=\"http:\/\/profile.myspace.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=116783153\">Revive Da Live<\/a>, which promotes the jazz-hip\/hop mashup in realtime performances, and I was surprised &#8212; not bad at all, in fact it was a lot of fun.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; \"><\/p>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial; font-size: 13px; \"><\/p>\n<div>The gig was at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crashmansion.com\/\">Crash Mansion<\/a>,\u00c2\u00a0<span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; \">an underground joint on Manhattan&#8217;s newly chic <a href=\"http:\/\/www.forgotten-ny.com\/STREET%20SCENES\/bowery\/bowery.html\">Bowery<\/a>. T<span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial; font-size: 13px; \"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; \">he crowd was young, 20-somethings dressed for leisure more like students and the nascent working class than bond traders. The Cypher opened for better known rappers <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Guru_(rapper)\">Guru<\/a> of <span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Jazzmatazz-Vol-1-Guru\/dp\/B000003JBM\/ref=sr_1_1?\/ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211557827&amp;sr=1-1\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">Jazzmatazz<\/a><\/span> and Superproducer Solar, with assists from star trumpeter <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vervemusicgroup.com\/royhargrove\">Roy Hargrove<\/a>.\u00c2\u00a0The music was all made by humans in the moment, no samples or loops far as I could tell, but both acts were steeped in rap and hip-hop, the inescapable pop vernacular so many jazzbos feel ideologically compelled to embrace yet just can&#8217;t. I know whereof I speak, as I&#8217;ve been among them. Do I now see (hear?) the light?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; \">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<p>The problems rap &amp; hip-hop pose for those who privilege jazz styles from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Jelly-Roll-Morton-Jazz-Motivations\/dp\/1844513947\/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1211565902&amp;sr=1-6\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">Jelly Roll<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/25-Greatest-Hot-Fives-Sevens\/dp\/B000001HIS\/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211566021&amp;sr=1-21\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">Pops<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0through <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Jungle-Band-Brunswick-Vol-1929-1931\/dp\/B000008AU5\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211566313&amp;sr=1-1\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">Duke<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/One-OClock-Jump-Count-Basie\/dp\/B000000RUK\/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211566352&amp;sr=1-3\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">Count<\/a>, swing and standards to bebop, modal jazz and 21st century <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Globe-Unity-Orchestra-40-Years\/dp\/B000ZGKX74\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211566420&amp;sr=1-1\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">global improvisation<\/a> include the preponderance of mechanized sound, spoken word over melodic content, static harmony and unbending rhythms. Though rap &amp; hip-hop emerge from the same multi-culti, helter-skelter cityscapes that have given rise to great black music since <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Early-Jazz-1917-1923-Various-Artists\/dp\/B00004LMS1\/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211557888&amp;sr=1-4\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">New Orleans circa 1917<\/a>, rappers and hip-hop or acid jazz bands &#8212; according to many a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Considering-Genius-Writings-Stanley-Crouch\/dp\/0465015123\/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1211557999&amp;sr=8-1\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">&#8220;serious&#8221; jazz critic <\/a>&#8212; abjure the advances jazz musicians over the decades have discovered and asserted in pursuit of transcendent glory, restricting their own efforts to tuneless chants over leaden beats that seldom go anywhere.\u00c2\u00a0And I&#8217;m characterizing the music here, not sending up the diverse poses and affectations rap and hip-hop artists aim at their hardcore audiences rather than produce for the comfortable consumption of mainstream types or even boomer hipsters.\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;\"><br class=\"webkit-block-placeholder\" \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;\">Such considerations fell away when goofy, gangly (don&#8217;t be deceived: also smart and articulate) Raydar Ellis grabbed the mike a little after 10 pm on a Monday night to introduce the evening in the guise of &#8220;Walter Ego&#8221;, then retreated into the musical ensemble, joining rather than fronting it. He spent the set slipping around the instrumentalists, freestyling funny, self-consciously theatrical and frequenlty insightful metrical rhymed commentary. Meanwhile Igmar Thomas, a small fellow whose face was obscured by his trumpet and billed baseball cap, eked out slippery, decadent lines in sync with tenor saxophonist James Casey, who boasted a strong, urgent but unworried tone. Both hornmen stretched out in persuasive solos, employing good chops in the service of connecting and advancing the music rather than merely showing off or embellishing a riff.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;\"><br class=\"webkit-block-placeholder\" \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;\">Electric bassist\u00c2\u00a0Nate Jones provided bouncy, grooving ostinatos a la Michael Henderson with mid &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Dark-Magus-Live-Carnegie-Hall\/dp\/B000002AH2\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211566650&amp;sr=1-1\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">70s Miles<\/a> Davis. Keyboardist Yuki Hirano was willing to be simple, supportive, and wait for the right break in which to dazzle, Drummer <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2OifPECLQmc&amp;feature=related\">Justin Brown<\/a> \u00c2\u00a0&#8212; who has been working with ex-Miles alto saxophonist Kenny Garrett &#8212; pushed time aggressively, splintering the beat to avoid repeat patterns, hitting hard to prod the solos and keep the motor running. What made it work was that these individuals all flashed their idiosyncracies but played well together, same as in any good jazz band. They were also self-deprecating, rather than outright boastful, though Raydar rightfully noted, with different shades of attitude each time, &#8220;New York is in the house!&#8221;<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Guru, long ago of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Mass-Appeal-Best-Gang-Starr\/dp\/B000KEG8V6\/ref=pd_bbs_10?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211558185&amp;sr=8-10\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">Gang Starr<\/a> and since 1993 the power behind the early jazz-meets-hip-hop recordings <span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Jazzmatazz<\/span>, was not so modest heralding his new mixtape <span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Jazzmatazz-Back-Future-Mix-Tape\/dp\/B0011BJPUI\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211558280&amp;sr=1-1\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">Back to the Future<\/a><\/span> as &#8220;in stores now!&#8221; &#8212; this information became a running ad through the rap-heavy stand. Though keyboardist\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Focus-Marc-Cary\/dp\/B000FS9NA0\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=music&amp;qid=1211564195&amp;sr=1-1\/?tag=howardmacom-20\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic;\">Marc Cary<\/span><\/a>, often an enlivening presence, was at the center of the rockin&#8217; rhythm section, and Hargrove stepped out of the wings frequently to shoot hot brass arrows through the thick mix, the overall effect was less appealing to me. Too exhortatory, not as playful as Thomas and The Cypher, Hargrove&#8217;s intensity hardly made a dent on the cheer-leading-like surface of the action and no, this music didn&#8217;t move deftly or groove compellingly &#8212; more like it trudged in place.\u00c2\u00a0<\/div>\n<div><br class=\"webkit-block-placeholder\" \/><\/div>\n<div>Any such perceived failure might fairly be accounted for by inherent biases of my personal taste, and related to defensible, self-determined distinctions between two groups that are both trying to revive da live &#8212; redesign music that was initially concocted virtually as collages b<br \/>\ny deejays with turntables and samplers so that it pulses with the deep breath and coursing blood of people interacting with each other through their instruments.\u00c2\u00a0<\/div>\n<div><br class=\"webkit-block-placeholder\" \/><\/div>\n<div>That format may be old school, but it&#8217;s still good school, leading who knows where? Not only back to the past.\u00c2\u00a0Admittedly, it&#8217;s not your daddy&#8217;s jazz or mine (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.buy.com\/prod\/this-side-of-heaven-collected-stories\/q\/loc\/106\/30825564.html\" style=\"text-decoration: underline; \">Robert E. Mandel<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0was more of a\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.frankloesser.com\/\" style=\"text-decoration: underline; \">Frank Loesser<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0guy, actually), and maybe not as far out as is presumed of jazz-beyond-jazz, but the sound was fresh and something my teenage daughter might relate to, which is, you know, how it oughta be.<\/div>\n<div><br class=\"webkit-block-placeholder\" \/><\/div>\n<p><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/w.sharethis.com\/widget\/?tabs=web%2Cpost%2Cemail&amp;charset=utf-8&amp;style=default&amp;publisher=6ed88875-2235-4b29-aaa3-60183b0bcbcc\"><\/script> <br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.howardmandel.com\" target=\"blank\">howardmandel.com<\/a> <br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/JazzBeyondJazz\" target=\"_blank\">Subscribe by Email or  RSS<\/a> <br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/archives.html\" target=\"_blank\"> All JBJ posts <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I heard the future here and now &#8212; let&#8217;s call it the present! &#8212; in the form of trumpeter Igmar Thomas &amp; The Cypher\u00c2\u00a0with MC Raydar Ellis\u00c2\u00a0the other night at a public party produced by Revive Da Live, which promotes the jazz-hip\/hop mashup in realtime performances, and I was surprised &#8212; not bad at all, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-93","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-main","7":"entry"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1i3CL-1v","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":255,"url":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2009\/10\/miles_ornette_cecil_goes_kindl.html","url_meta":{"origin":93,"position":0},"title":"Miles Ornette Cecil goes Kindle","author":"Howard Mandel","date":"October 12, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Huzzah! My book Miles Ornette Cecil -- Jazz Beyond Jazz is now an e-book from Amazon for Kindle-reading and maybe other e-book formats, too (I'm checking see below). 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