{"id":77,"date":"2008-03-04T14:17:20","date_gmt":"2008-03-04T19:17:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp\/2008\/03\/flattered_and_bemused\/"},"modified":"2011-04-28T16:34:44","modified_gmt":"2011-04-28T20:34:44","slug":"flattered_and_bemused","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2008\/03\/flattered_and_bemused.html","title":{"rendered":"flattered and bemused"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The resident blogger is flattered that so many readers stick up for the rights of reviewers to do what they do. He&#8217;s also amused at one reader&#8217;s suggestion that John Zorn regards professional opinions so highly he&#8217;d prefer to suppress them.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nThere may be no upside to well-known composer\/performers suffering reviews of their work from journalistic critics &#8212; that seemed to be what John Zorn was saying by asking for no reviews of his season-premiering performance at St. Ann&#8217;s Warehouse, and that seems to be what the bulk of commentators to my previous posting about this strange request assumed. If there&#8217;s a benefit resulting from reviews, it&#8217;s for the reader, who may be a future or actual audience member, anticipating hearing a given artist or evaluating their persona experience of music against the published\/posted report.<br \/>\nThe report itself is evidently assumed by some musicians to be filled with words words words &#8212; words that cannot adequately represent the music or intentions behind the music they seek to make. Zorn doesn&#8217;t say that outright &#8212; he has <i>some<\/i> interest and belief in words, having published two interesting volumes titled <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Arcana-Musicians-Music-John-Zorn\/dp\/188712327X\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1204663151&#038;sr=1-1 \"target=\"_blank\"> <i>Arcana<\/i><\/a>, essays by musicians on music.<br \/>\nThe case for disdain of words, especially those accumulating around the keyword &#8220;jazz,&#8221; was voiced most recently by saxophonist Tim Berne, who at a Portland jazz festival panel inveighed against &#8220;jazz&#8221; (and especially its variant &#8220;free jazz&#8221;) as terminology that keeps away people who might actually like what he plays, because they expect it to be old-fashioned &#8220;ching-chingaling&#8221; pre-bop. Trumpeter Cuong Vu chimed in on this discussion, insisting that swing &#8212; which he characterized similarly as that &#8220;ching-chingaling&#8221; rhythm &#8212; has no place in his band, and that he tells his drummers if he hears them &#8220;swinging,&#8221; he&#8217;ll fire them. I felt compelled to point out that Cuong had swung like mad the night before in his rampant phrasing over the hard-driving (swinging?) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Be-Bread-Image-Your-Body\/dp\/B000QZULP8\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=dmusic&#038;qid=1204663282&#038;sr=8-1 \"target=\"_blank\"> Be Bread<\/a> band, sort of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/The-Inner-Mounting-Flame\/dp\/B00136NY44\/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;s=dmusic&#038;qid=1204663442&#038;sr=1-2 \"target=\"_blank\">Mahavishnu Orchestra<\/a> as reconceived by composer-keyboardist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myramelford.com\/ \"target=\"_blank\">Myra Melford<\/a>.<br \/>\nTim Berne, throughout his panel discourse, used some words loosely, in particular vulgarities which he could have consciously curtailed had he been thinking about the panel&#8217;s potential broadcast audience and a few little kids in the crowd. He would not have been so casual about notes he&#8217;d use in a composition or solo. Cuong Vu, I think, accepts too limited a definition of words like &#8220;swing&#8221; and &#8220;jazz.&#8221; I take those both as liberating, not imprisoning, concepts, and think if the terms have been co-opted by invidious traditionalist forces, it&#8217;s up to advocates of jazz-beyond-jazz to reclaim them as our own. Butch Morris, as I mentioned in a previous post, agrees. From what I heard on that Portland panel, so do the members of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thebadplus.com\/ \"target=\"_blank\">the Bad Plus<\/a> (of course, they can speak for themselves, as they do on their blog <a href=\"http:\/\/thebadplus.typepad.com\/dothemath\/ \"target=\"_blank\">Do The Math<\/a>.<br \/>\nPlease understand: I do not expect composer\/performers to embrace what I&#8217;ve said in reviews about their efforts, though I&#8217;m gratified if they do. It pleases me if they think I&#8217;ve described something they&#8217;ve done accurately or insightfully, if they personally get something out of what I&#8217;ve said, and if they happen to think it&#8217;s advisable to adjust their work in line with my judgments (that has happened very rarely if ever, and I try to review the show I hear, not the one I imagine and can&#8217;t myself create). What music reviewers may be doing (if they&#8217;re doing their job well) Is constructing a history of performance from the perspective of the time and place where it&#8217;s unfolded. We witness what happened, and try to place it. It is our mission and compulsion, as it is the musicians&#8217; to make music. I quite agree with Joe Foley, who writes: &#8220;Musicians play\/reviewers review.&#8221; What else would I do?<br \/>\nI am indeed disposed to admire John Zorn&#8217;s music, and I seldom write anything very toxic even about the most insufferable b.s. That&#8217;s just the kind of critic I am, the kind kind. I don&#8217;t think of his reluctance to be reviewed as a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.law.cornell.edu\/constitution\/constitution.billofrights.html \"target=\"_blank\">First Amendment<\/a> issue (no law&#8217;s involved, it&#8217;s a request, he&#8217;s not censoring me,  more like asking for my indulgence), but instead as a projection of profound shyness trumping defensive attitudinizing. There is something strong about artists willing to countenance the response of the people they create for &#8212; not that artists have to or <i>ever should<\/i> bend to others&#8217; points of view. I typically ask for free tickets so I can experience something that I hope to be able to and want to write about. That&#8217;s why I got into this business (sic: business) &#8212; not for the free tickets but for the experiences I might want to write about. I ask for the professional courtesy because I&#8217;m covering a beat that I&#8217;d go broke fast paying my way into (I&#8217;ve gone broke, regardless). I cover it as if the performance of music is news. A musician wants me to hear something, but not write about it &#8212; it&#8217;s like being a scientist asked to observe an experiment but not think about its complexities.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m holding to the agreement (though Nate Chinen, in the New York Times, wrote a very generous <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2008\/03\/03\/arts\/music\/03zorn.html?ref\" target=\"_blank\">music review<\/a>). About Zorn&#8217;s music at St. Ann&#8217;s: not a hint of <i>my<\/i> opinion.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.howardmandel.com\" target=\"blank\">howardmandel.com<\/a> <br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/JazzBeyondJazz\" target=\"_blank\">Subscribe by Email or  RSS<\/a> <br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/archives.html\" target=\"_blank\"> All JBJ posts <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The resident blogger is flattered that so many readers stick up for the rights of reviewers to do what they do. He&#8217;s also amused at one reader&#8217;s suggestion that John Zorn regards professional opinions so highly he&#8217;d prefer to suppress them.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-77","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-main","7":"entry"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1i3CL-1f","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":80,"url":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2008\/03\/musicians_dread_words.html","url_meta":{"origin":77,"position":0},"title":"Musicians dread words","author":"Howard Mandel","date":"March 2, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"John Zorn asked writers not to review his performance opening the season at St. Ann's Warehouse in Brooklyn, though he was pleased we wanted to attend. How can\/should an arts journalist comply? Publicist Blake Zidell, no stranger to the particularities of musicians, presenters, freelance critics and others on the New\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;main&quot;","block_context":{"text":"main","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/category\/main"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":346,"url":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2010\/10\/manhattan_music_loft_roulette.html","url_meta":{"origin":77,"position":1},"title":"Manhattan music &#8220;loft&#8221; Roulette takes big chance on Brooklyn","author":"Howard Mandel","date":"October 2, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"Roulette, since 1978 a formerly humble Manhattan-based presenter of avant-garde \"intermedia,\" has signed a 20-year lease on a former YWCA art deco 600-seat theater in Brooklyn. This\u00a0\u00a0Next weekend (Oct. 7, 8, 9) is the space's three-night benefit \"Easy Not Easy,\" assigning emerging (read: little known) artists presumably simple scores by\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;main&quot;","block_context":{"text":"main","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/category\/main"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":109,"url":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2008\/07\/avantgarde_alert_brooklyn.html","url_meta":{"origin":77,"position":2},"title":"Odd noise music alert, Brooklyn","author":"Howard Mandel","date":"July 29, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"A concert sponsored by The Onion -- so expect to be amused, Wednesday July 30, starting at 6:30 pm, free in a tent by the Brooklyn waterfront:\u00c2\u00a0John Zorn's \"Cobra\" -- an intricate musical game performed best by quick-witted improvisers with a handle of tactics governing the Avalon Hill board wargames\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"avant garde concert\"","block_context":{"text":"avant garde concert","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/tag\/avant-garde-concert"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":392,"url":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2011\/04\/creative_music_studio_woodstoc.html","url_meta":{"origin":77,"position":3},"title":"Creative Music Studio, Woodstock at Columbia U and East Village","author":"Howard Mandel","date":"April 21, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"My\u00a0CityArts - New York column\u00a0is about the Creative Music Symposium, organized by\u00a0Karl Berger, pianist\/vibist with his wife Ingrid Sertso, who cofounded with free-thinking Ornette Coleman of the Creative Music Studio in Woodstock NY (1972-1984). The symposium at Columbia University's Center for Jazz Studies (directed by trombonist and digital music innovator\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;main&quot;","block_context":{"text":"main","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/category\/main"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":1065,"url":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2012\/10\/macarthur-ignores-jazz-musicians-and-improvisers.html","url_meta":{"origin":77,"position":4},"title":"MacArthur ignores jazz musicians and improvisers","author":"Howard Mandel","date":"October 2, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"The new list of MacArthur fellows, just released,\u00c2\u00a0features not one musician from the world of jazz among the 23 distinguished Americans who will receive $100,000 a year for five years. Two musicians are named among the fellows: Claire Chase, flutist and founder of the International Contemporary Ensemble\u00c2\u00a0(ICE) and Chris Thile,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;main&quot;","block_context":{"text":"main","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/category\/main"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/claire-chase.jpeg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":76,"url":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2008\/02\/butch_morris_jazz_conductor.html","url_meta":{"origin":77,"position":5},"title":"Butch Morris, jazz conductor","author":"Howard Mandel","date":"February 25, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"(slightly corrected version)Conductor of improvisation Lawrence Douglas \"Butch\" Morris is an East Village charmer, now-too-infrequent cornetist and internationally-known instigator of large ensemble music made spontaneously in real time by free-from-convention individuals. During a radio interview for the NPR show News & Notes, Butch identifies himself as a jazz musician not\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;main&quot;","block_context":{"text":"main","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/category\/main"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=77"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=77"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=77"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=77"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}