{"id":302,"date":"2010-03-04T23:53:47","date_gmt":"2010-03-05T04:53:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp\/2010\/03\/anti-jazz_the_still-new_thing\/"},"modified":"2011-04-28T16:33:20","modified_gmt":"2011-04-28T20:33:20","slug":"anti-jazz_the_still-new_thing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2010\/03\/anti-jazz_the_still-new_thing.html","title":{"rendered":"Anti-jazz, the still-new thing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ihousephilly.org\/about-international-house.htm\">International House Philadelphia<\/a> hosts a series way beyond old jazz conventions, with roots in the wild stuff fav&#8217; son John Coltrane blew in 1961. I delve into the 50-year controversy for PMP &nbsp;online magazine of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.philadelphiamusicproject.org\/\">Philadelphia Music Projec<\/a>t&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/y8mtgls\">here<\/a>, before the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artensembleofchicago.com\/\">Art Ensemble of Chicago<\/a> plays what it&#8217;s come to on Saturday, March 6.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nIn truth, the members of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Impressions\/dp\/B000V67506\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">classic Coltrane Quartet plus saxophonist Eric Dolphy<\/a> at the Village Vanguard back then weren&#8217;t against anything except creative complacency, as the two hornmen explained back in the day (read their classic defense against critics John Tynan, Ira Gitler and Leonard Feather in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/DownBeat-Great-Interviews-Anniversary-Anthology\/dp\/1423463846\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">DownBeat &#8211; The Great Jazz Interviews<\/a>,&nbsp;which also features my articles on Henry Threadgill, Joe Lovano, Bill Frisell and Terrence Blanchard and Donald Harrison). But see\/hear for yourself in this clip that retains its power lo these decades&nbsp;later &#8212;<\/p>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div>\n<div><object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/me7P9qqBgwI&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Yes, that&#8217;s the great Elvin Jones on drums, McCoy Tyner playing piano and bassist in this clip is Reggie Workman (both the latter two Philadelphians, incidentally).&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>And what does the new thing look\/sound like now? Bassist Malachi Favors is no longer with us (sad to say) but here&#8217;s Mitchell on soprano sax with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Fanfare-For-The-Warriors\/dp\/B00122AXVQ\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">the Art Ensemble<\/a> (drummer: Famadou Don Moy\u00c3\u00a9) in Paris, 2001:&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/RTSQMIOjaNg&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Maybe not your cuppa, but call this &#8220;anti-jazz&#8221;? I call it jazz beyond jazz.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.howardmandel.com\/\" target=\"blank\">howardmandel.com<\/a> <br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.feedburner.com\/fb\/a\/emailverifySubmit?feedId=1102712&amp;loc=en_US\" target=\"_blank\">Subscribe by Email <\/a>  |<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/JazzBeyondJazz\" target=\"_blank\">Subscribe by  RSS<\/a> |<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\" target=\"_blank\">Follow on Twitter <\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/archives.html\" target=\"_blank\"> All JBJ posts <\/a> |<br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/w.sharethis.com\/widget\/?tabs=web%2Cpost%2Cemail&amp;charset=utf-8&amp;style=default&amp;publisher=6ed88875-2235-4b29-aaa3-60183b0bcbcc\"><\/script> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>International House Philadelphia hosts a series way beyond old jazz conventions, with roots in the wild stuff fav&#8217; son John Coltrane blew in 1961. I delve into the 50-year controversy for PMP &nbsp;online magazine of the Philadelphia Music Project&nbsp;here, before the Art Ensemble of Chicago plays what it&#8217;s come to on Saturday, March 6.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[729,731,730,733,603,734,728,459,735,736,732],"class_list":{"0":"post-302","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-main","7":"tag-anti-jazz","8":"tag-ars-nova-workshop","9":"tag-art-ensemble-of-chicago","10":"tag-elvin-jones","11":"tag-eric-dolphy","12":"tag-famadou-don-moye","13":"tag-international-house-philadelphia","14":"tag-john-coltrane","15":"tag-philadelphia-music-project","16":"tag-pmp-magazine","17":"tag-roscoe-mitchell","18":"entry"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1i3CL-4S","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":235,"url":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2009\/08\/rashied_ali_multi-directional.html","url_meta":{"origin":302,"position":0},"title":"Rashied Ali, multi-directional drummer, interviewed","author":"Howard Mandel","date":"August 13, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"In 1990 I interviewed drummer Rashied Ali for\u00c2\u00a0The World According to John Coltrane, a documentary produced and directed by Toby Byron. 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