{"id":211,"date":"2009-06-23T17:37:41","date_gmt":"2009-06-23T21:37:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/wp\/2009\/06\/michelle_obama_refutes_jazz_as\/"},"modified":"2011-04-28T16:34:03","modified_gmt":"2011-04-28T20:34:03","slug":"michelle_obama_refutes_jazz_as","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2009\/06\/michelle_obama_refutes_jazz_as.html","title":{"rendered":"Michelle Obama refutes jazz as boys&#8217; club"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are &#8220;powerful reasons . . .we ought to consider&#8221; for why musicians and listeners &#8220;tend to be a brotherhood,&#8221; according to a self-described &#8220;middle-aged white male swing-to-bopper.&#8221; He&#8217;s identifying, not justifying . . .Then the First Lady upsets the paradigm. She brings her daughters to the gig.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I&#8217;ve got pressing deadlines, but luckily several lengthy, thoughtful responses to recent blog postings, so here&#8217;s one of a series by correspondents of <span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Jazz Beyond Jazz<\/span>.&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.lindemeyer.com\/bios\/plbio.html\">Paul Lindemeyer<\/a>&nbsp;ia a multi-talented reeds musician\/big band leader\/author of&nbsp;<span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Celebrating-Saxophone-Paul-Lindemeyer\/dp\/0688135188\/?tag=howardmacom-20\">Celebrating the Saxophone<\/a>, Hearst Books, 1996<\/span>, and offers thoughts on the ever-popular topic of what women want &nbsp;from jazz, in public dialog that was begun&nbsp;on this blog&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2009\/05\/lifes_a_pitch_where_are_the_wo.html\" style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">not long ago<\/a>. &nbsp;His views do not necessarily represent my own, and I wonder if they&#8217;re supported by the experience of&nbsp;Michelle Obama, whose personal testamony to the meaning of jazz in her own life since childhood visits to the jazz-overflowing home of her maternal grandad called &#8220;Southside&#8221; brought happy tears to my eyes.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;\">&nbsp;First Lady first; Mr. Lindemeyer therafter:&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"295\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/AE1suryaF5Y&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1&#038;\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><\/object><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nPaul Lindemeyer:<\/p>\n<div><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"webkit-indent-blockquote\" style=\"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;\"><p><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; \">There are, IMO, several reasons why jazz musicians and listeners tend<br \/>to be a brotherhood and not a &#8220;peoplehood.&#8221; They&#8217;re not necessarily<br \/>&#8220;good&#8221; or defensible reasons, but they&#8217;re powerful reasons, and we<br \/>ought to consider them.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Jazz is music, of course. Music &#8211; traditionally &#8211; is a single-minded<br \/>art that dominates your life, whether you&#8217;re a player or a listener.<br \/>Indeed, that has become a kind of code for seriousness, and with it,<br \/>excellence. And pardon the rank generalization, but single-mindedness<br \/>is men&#8217;s work much more often than it is women&#8217;s.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>What are the most important values of jazz? Again, I&#8217;m going to<br \/>generalize here. (I&#8217;m a middle-aged White male swing-to-bopper; it&#8217;s<br \/>what my people do.) I&#8217;d say 1. expressiveness, 2. individuality, and 3.<br \/>that combination of proficiency and assertiveness we call &#8220;prowess.&#8221;\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Besides 2 and 3 being male-coded values that we mostly don&#8217;t encourage<br \/>in women artists, there is an underlying every-man (yes I said<br \/>MAN)-for-himself competitiveness that has become a given in musical<br \/>achievements as well as in just getting gigs. Cutting contests are with<br \/>us in spirit, even if they don&#8217;t happen as such anymore. Status and<br \/>ranking are real, and they&#8217;re mostly unquestioned.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Obviously not the helping, communitarian ethic that&#8217;s promoted as<br \/>&#8220;essentially feminine&#8221; (which disses the ethic and those who live it,<br \/>with predictable results). And the core fanship doesn&#8217;t help; it&#8217;s<br \/>overwhelmingly male, and consumed with hobbyist obsessions which are<br \/>just as isolating.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of status, jazz itself is precarious in status &#8211; not<br \/>commercial music, not art music. This may, at least in the music&#8217;s<br \/>money centers like NYC, be permanent, and indeed, some feel that kind<br \/>of hunger keeps the music fresh. But that too discourages a helping,<br \/>cooperative ethic.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Jazz communities, societies, and venues are loose, fractious, and short<br \/>money not just because we&#8217;re all such friggn&#8217; individuals, but because<br \/>their place in the arts culture of North America gives them no choice.<br \/>Add back the single-minded ethic of the artist and you get music that<br \/>is generations more enlightened than the community it comes from.\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>There are, in recent years, a lot of not-so-subtle hints from the<br \/>cultured classes that jazz has lost its cool; that it is growing<br \/>insular and irrelevant; that it no longer has much to say about &#8211; or<br \/>even to &#8211; the world it lives in. Mostly, jazz itself does not give a<br \/>damn. It ought to, and considering itself in light of cultural codes<br \/>and values besides the good old Black and White would be a good<br \/>beginning.\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;\">Isn&#8217;t Mrs. Obama sending a straight-out message that jazz is back &#8212; enjoyable, relevant, hip, not Black and White but American multi-culti? Is the &#8220;helping, communitarian ethic&#8221; that might be as characteristic of jazz as it is of Barack Obama&#8217;s overall governing approach read as essentially feminine or has jazz turned it macho? Could powerful women such as Michelle and cool cats like Barack lead the populace back to jazz? The First Lady is celebrated in\u00c2\u00a0&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jazzinchicago.org\/presents\/gala\/our-7th-annual-gala-honoring-grace-michelle-obama\" style=\"text-decoration: underline; \">Honoring Grace: Michelle Obama<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0a jazz composition by renown Chicago flutist Nicole Mitchell, a commission co-sponsored by The Boeing Company to be premiered at the Jazz Institute of Chicago&#8217;s 7th annual gala on Tuesday, September 1. Will women come out in force to hear it?\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.howardmandel.com\/\" target=\"blank\">howardmandel.com<\/a> <br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.feedburner.com\/fb\/a\/emailverifySubmit?feedId=1102712&amp;loc=en_US\" target=\"_blank\">Subscribe by Email <\/a>  |<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/JazzBeyondJazz\" target=\"_blank\">Subscribe by  RSS<\/a> |<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\" target=\"_blank\">Follow on Twitter <\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/archives.html\" target=\"_blank\"> All JBJ posts <\/a> |<br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"http:\/\/w.sharethis.com\/widget\/?tabs=web%2Cpost%2Cemail&amp;charset=utf-8&amp;style=default&amp;publisher=6ed88875-2235-4b29-aaa3-60183b0bcbcc\"><\/script> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are &#8220;powerful reasons . . .we ought to consider&#8221; for why musicians and listeners &#8220;tend to be a brotherhood,&#8221; according to a self-described &#8220;middle-aged white male swing-to-bopper.&#8221; He&#8217;s identifying, not justifying . . .Then the First Lady upsets the paradigm. She brings her daughters to the gig. I&#8217;ve got pressing deadlines, but luckily several [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[346,345,343,123,344],"class_list":{"0":"post-211","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-main","7":"tag-southside","8":"tag-jazz-institute-of-chicago","9":"tag-michelle-obama-and-jazz","10":"tag-nicole-mitchell","11":"tag-paul-lindemeyer","12":"entry"},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1i3CL-3p","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":213,"url":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/jazzbeyondjazz\/2009\/06\/furor_over_jazz_sexism_continu.html","url_meta":{"origin":211,"position":0},"title":"Furor over jazz sexism (continues)","author":"Howard Mandel","date":"June 26, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Kitty Margolis,\u00c2\u00a0Bay Area jazz singer, Facebook and in-person friend, fired up followers re guest blogger Paul Lindemeyer's comments on jazz's historic bias towards men, which I contextualized with reference to Michelle Obama's White House jazz night. 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