{"id":369,"date":"2003-09-15T12:01:00","date_gmt":"2003-09-15T19:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp\/2003\/09\/arnold_bill_and_yoko\/"},"modified":"2026-10-25T12:23:51","modified_gmt":"2026-10-25T16:23:51","slug":"arnold_bill_and_yoko","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/2003\/09\/arnold_bill_and_yoko.html","title":{"rendered":"<strong>ARNOLD, BILL, AND YOKO<\/strong>"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>By JAN HERMAN<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>What is Arnold Schwarzenegger doing making bigger news than ever? This guy was yesteryear. For me, he has built-in nostalgia. I recall an interview I did with him in Chicago in 1982. It began:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Arnold Schwarzenegger, budding film star, puffs on his pipe like a banker on holiday and sends leisurely little clouds of smoke into the air. \n<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Now he&#8217;s taken seriously as a&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/store.yahoo.com\/victorystore00\/scforgo.html\"><em><font color=\"#003399\">candidate for California governor<\/font><\/em><\/a>? <\/strong><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>And what about Bill Murray? I&#8217;ve admired him for years, mainly for&nbsp;his subversive sense of humor. Now he&#8217;s being touted for an Oscar nod, long denied him, for&nbsp;the &#8220;revelation&#8221; of&nbsp;his&nbsp;&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2003\/09\/14\/movies\/14SCOT.html\"><font color=\"#003399\"><em>subtle, aching, witty performance<\/em><\/font><\/a>?&#8221; <em>(Free registration required.)<\/em> I recall an interview I did with him in Chicago in 1981.&nbsp;It began:<\/strong><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>When George Hamilton went on a publicity tour several years ago for &#8220;Love at First\u00a0 Bite,&#8221; he took along his Count Dracula cape and at each stop climbed out of a coffin. Bill Murray doesn&#8217;t have to go to that length for his\u00a0new film &#8220;Stripes.&#8221; He simply has to roll out of bed. At the Pump Room the other day, Murray looked less like he had just stepped off a plane from New York than out of his starring role as Winger, a sad sack rescued from civilian life by the Army. He was lunching at the VIP table with the white telephone and wore scuffed sneakers, creased pants and a sweater that barely hid the design on his T-shirt. Day-old stubble darkened\u00a0his\u00a0chin. His red-rimmed eyes were bleary from lack of sleep. When the waitress in the tuxedo jacket lit his cigarette, behind her gracious smile seemed to lurk the thought: &#8220;We&#8217;re all kidding, aren&#8217;t we?&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>On top of that, I see&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/newsArticle.jhtml?type=peopleNews&amp;storyID=3440027\"><em><font color=\"#003399\">Yoko Ono&nbsp;may go naked for peace<\/font><\/em><\/a> today in Paris. I recall an article in an avant-garde literary magazine I edited &#8212; this goes back to 1968 &#8212; that led off with a photo of her in a nude happening by Jean-Jacques Lebel at an underground film festival in Belgium. There she is, unidentified and full frontal, competing for the title of &#8220;Miss Festival.&#8221; It&#8217;s satire, of course. One of the contestants, with a&nbsp;luscious body, wears a sign: &#8220;Hors concours&#8221; (meaning &#8220;Disqualified&#8221; or, more to the point, &#8220;No contest&#8221;). Yoko&#8217;s sign reads: &#8220;No. 9&#8221; &#8212; and she&#8217;s holding it sideways.<\/strong><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>All this makes me feel like Rip Van Winkle. I think I&#8217;ll go take a nap.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By JAN HERMAN What is Arnold Schwarzenegger doing making bigger news than ever? This guy was yesteryear. 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