{"id":1013,"date":"2005-02-14T10:18:03","date_gmt":"2005-02-14T18:18:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp\/2005\/02\/battle_of_dresden\/"},"modified":"2005-02-14T10:18:03","modified_gmt":"2005-02-14T18:18:03","slug":"battle_of_dresden","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/2005\/02\/battle_of_dresden.html","title":{"rendered":"BATTLE OF DRESDEN"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Although many more neo-Nazis marched through Dresden than originally estimated &#8212; Reuters<br \/>\nnow says <A\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2005\/02\/14\/international\/europe\/14dresden.html?adxnnl=1&#038;page\nwanted=all&#038;adxnnlx=1108391663-O7eOYRid5D\/NIwOLksEBmA\"><B><FONT\ncolor=#003399>there were 5,000 marchers<\/FONT><\/B><\/A>, not the initially reported 2,000 &#8212;<br \/>\nit turns out that 10 times their number of ordinary Germans, &#8220;up to 50,000 residents, wearing<br \/>\nwhite roses in a symbol of reconciliation, gathered in the city&#8217;s historic heart to light candles in<br \/>\nmemory of all victims of war.&#8221;<br \/>\n<P><\/P><br \/>\n<P>Reuters goes on to say:<\/P><br \/>\n<P><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE>The sight of far-right marchers angered and dismayed many residents, who<br \/>\nlater spelled out in flickering candlelight <STRONG>&#8220;This city is sick of Nazis&#8221;<\/STRONG> in<br \/>\nletters five yards high. [See photo.]<\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P><\/P>And here&#8217;s <A class=inline\nhref=\"http:\/\/service.spiegel.de\/cache\/international\/0,1518,341717,00.html\"\ntarget='new\"'><B><FONT color=#003399>der Spiegel&#8217;s take<\/FONT><\/B><\/A>. In the<br \/>\nmeantime, Bill Osborne, whose notes on <A class=inline\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/archives20050201.shtml#95780\"\ntarget='new\"'><B><FONT color=#003399>honky myopia<\/FONT><\/B><\/A> I cited yesterday,<br \/>\nsent this message in response to <A class=inline\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/archives20050201.shtml#96401\"\ntarget='new\"'><B><FONT color=#003399>BAD DAY IN DRESDEN<\/FONT><\/B><\/A>:<br \/>\n<P><\/P><br \/>\n<P><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE><IMG\nsrc=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/images\/dresdensickofnazis.jpg\" width=180\nalign=right>Jan &#8212; There are more and more people in Germany who are not Nazis, but who<br \/>\nwould say, &#8220;Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden and today Baghdad.&#8221; I regularly heard similar<br \/>\ncomments even during the first Gulf War, and they were from people throughout the political<br \/>\nspectrum.<br \/>\n<P><\/P><br \/>\n<P>As you note, the whole line of thought is fraught with problems. The concept of total war &#8212;<br \/>\nwhich includes massive bombings of civilian populations &#8212; is one of the 20th century&#8217;s<br \/>\ncontributions to history, but no one really understands this issue and all that it means and implies.<br \/>\nIt will take much more time for us to morally define the concept of total war. But it is revealing<br \/>\nthat the United States of America is the only country that has continued bombing cities after<br \/>\nWorld War II.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>Twenty-five years ago, few in Germany spoke of the bombings as wrong or as war crimes,<br \/>\nbut that has slowly changed, based in part on historical research completed since then. Of course,<br \/>\nGermans shy away from saying the bombings might have been wrong when they see Nazis<br \/>\nharping on it, because they do not want to be associated with such loathsome people and all of<br \/>\ntheir hidden agendas and specious arguments.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>It would, however, be an error to let aversion to the Nazis influence any discussion. They<br \/>\ndeserve no influence at all. Instead, the bombings should be considered in thoughtful ways, and<br \/>\nthe neo-Nazis simply recognized for their loathsome arguments and falsifications of history. And<br \/>\nthen they should be ignored.<\/P><br \/>\n<P>For their part, Americans need to at least be aware of the increasing belief even among<br \/>\naverage Germans that the bombings [of Dresden] were in some respects wrong. Based on what I<br \/>\nhave seen, it is a theme that might become more important than we might suspect. Americans<br \/>\nneed to think about how they are going to address this issue.<\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P><\/P><br \/>\n<P>They also need to think more about a lot of other things. But as Bob Herbert writes this<br \/>\nmorning in his column about Arthur Miller, <A class=inline\nhref=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2005\/02\/14\/opinion\/14herbert.html?hp\"\ntarget='new\"'><B><FONT color=#003399>&#8220;The Public Thinker,&#8221;<\/FONT><\/B><\/A> the odds<br \/>\nare heavily against their thinking about anything unless it can be said &#8220;in 30 seconds.&#8221; <\/P><br \/>\n<P>Thinking itself is &#8220;a notion that appears to have gone the way of the rotary phone,&#8221; he notes.<br \/>\n&#8220;Americans not only seem to be doing less serious thinking lately, they seem to have less and less<br \/>\ntolerance for those who spend their time wrestling with important and complex matters.&#8221;<\/P><br \/>\n<P><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE>Ignorance is in. The nation is at war and its appetite for torture may be<br \/>\nundermining the very essence of the American character, but the public at large seems much more<br \/>\ninterested in what Martha will do when she gets out of prison and what Jacko will do if he has to<br \/>\ngo in.<\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P><\/P><br \/>\n<P>Herbert goes on to say:<\/P><br \/>\n<P><br \/>\n<BLOCKQUOTE>Mr. Miller understood early that keeping the population entertained was<br \/>\nbecoming the paramount imperative of the U.S. We&#8217;re now all but buried in entertainment and the<br \/>\nrepublic is running amok. Mr. Miller is gone, and if we&#8217;re not wise enough to pay attention, his<br \/>\nuncomfortable truths will die with him. (He felt, among other things, that most men and women<br \/>\nknew &#8220;little or nothing&#8221; about the forces manipulating their lives.)<br \/>\n<P><\/P><br \/>\n<P>Anyway, <A class=inline href=\"http:\/\/www.grammy.com\" target='new\"'><B><FONT\ncolor=#003399>the Grammys<\/FONT><\/B><\/A> were last night and<FONT color=#003399><br \/>\n<\/FONT><A class=inline href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/story\/0,2933,147517,00.html\"\ntarget='new\"'><B><FONT color=#003399>Michael Jackson&#8217;s trial<\/FONT><\/B><\/A> resumes<br \/>\ntoday.<\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><br \/>\n<P><\/P><br \/>\n<P>Having fun yet?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Although many more neo-Nazis marched through Dresden than originally estimated &#8212; Reuters now says there were 5,000 marchers, not the initially reported 2,000 &#8212; it turns out that 10 times their number of ordinary Germans, &#8220;up to 50,000 residents, wearing white roses in a symbol of reconciliation, gathered in the city&#8217;s historic heart to light [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-1013","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-main","7":"entry"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pbvgEs-gl","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1013","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1013"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1013\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1013"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1013"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/herman\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1013"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}