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Afraid that the rest of the tree will fall right on our bedroom, we have vacated to a nearby motel, where I am tapping this out in the bathroom on my laptop while the family sleeps. So where was I?<br \/>\nI myself was not attacking ovation inflation. I see nothing wrong with it, actually. I don&#8217;t stand myself because I guess I&#8217;m just not that demonstrative, but I don&#8217;t care if others are. I was just wondering if it signals anything about the modern audience that&#8217;s different from ears past. You write that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Audience timidity about strongly expressing opinions might seem contradictory with a disdain for standing ovations; sitting and applauding politely is hedging your bets; standing and cheering puts you out there, in some sense.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure that I agree with that at all; in fact it may be the opposite. Standing and cheering might be the safer gambit in a group that&#8217;s doing it. 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