{"id":590,"date":"2009-05-24T09:01:30","date_gmt":"2009-05-24T16:01:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/anotherbb\/wp\/2009\/05\/ries_niemi_the_problem_of_publ\/"},"modified":"2009-05-24T09:01:30","modified_gmt":"2009-05-24T16:01:30","slug":"ries_niemi_the_problem_of_publ","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/anotherbb\/2009\/05\/ries_niemi_the_problem_of_publ.html","title":{"rendered":"Ries Niemi: The problem of public art is the jury (and politicians)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In response to this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/anotherbb\/2009\/05\/friday-links-3.html\">post<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.riesniemi.com\/index.html\">Ries Niemi<\/a> wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Mostly, it&#8217;s the system. <br \/>\nFirst, a jury, with perhaps one artist on it, and, usually, an<br \/>\narchitect who feels any art is an intrusion on his genius, plus a few<br \/>\nlaypeople who are convinced the budget would be better spent on giving<br \/>\nthem more days off. <\/p>\n<p>Unless you have been on juries, &#8230;you have no idea the horsetrading, educating, and<br \/>\npoliticking that are involved to get any but the blandest, least<br \/>\nthreatening, beige art selected.<\/p>\n<p>Although I am an artist who competes for these projects, I have<br \/>\nserved on several juries over the years, and most every time, the<br \/>\nstrongest artists with the most personality are voted out in the first<br \/>\nround, despite my protests.<\/p>\n<p>Jury composition is an art- in the legal system, there are<br \/>\nconsultants who charge hundreds of thousands to help on jury selection<br \/>\nof big cases. And this is one of the biggest weaknesses of a weak arts<br \/>\nadministrator- not timidity, but the inability to find, and cajole,<br \/>\ngreat people to serve on juries. Generally, the administrator must sit<br \/>\non the sidelines and manage process, not lobby for favorites.<\/p>\n<p>Then, the even bigger problem is the politicians or beaurocrats who<br \/>\nmust say yes before checks are signed- the main reason for dumbing down<br \/>\nof ideas.<\/p>\n<p>In the recent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artsjournal.com\/anotherbb\/2009\/05\/once-more-with-feeling-public.html\">Dan Webb\/Olympia dustup<\/a>, it was the elected<br \/>\npoliticians who shot down the idea, not the artist who was timid- and<br \/>\nthis is very very common. Which leads professional artists, ones who<br \/>\nhave been around the block once or twice, to avoid pitching that x<br \/>\nrated day glo pink giant reptile eating human cadavers amidst a pile of<br \/>\ncrack bags. Self editing is what you are talking about, not timidity&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>In any field of endeavor, there is a difference between being timid and just tossing out expletives for their shock value. <\/p>\n<p>Nope, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Seedbed_%28performance_piece%29\">Vito<\/a> has never proposed that he would masturbate under the stairs for a project for a new convention center&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In response to this post, Ries Niemi wrote: Mostly, it&#8217;s the system. First, a jury, with perhaps one artist on it, and, usually, an architect who feels any art is an intrusion on his genius, plus a few laypeople who are convinced the budget would be better spent on giving them more days off. 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