Ten truly great artists per century?

Last week Ed Winkleman posted this little cocktail party conversation starter: "I had drinks and a chat with, IMO, one of the greatest minds of the New York art world last night, and he and I eventually came around to this very question, agreeing that the world has been lucky to have 10 truly great artists per century..."

Summer was made for this kind of step-back-and-think game. (I've seen Wolfgang Tillmans enough times and in enough cities to have completely maxed out on the combination of Scotch tape and photographs.)

At first I thought that EW's number was preposterously low. Ten? Think of the artists that would leave out! For example (and in no particular order):

  • 20th: Matisse, Picasso, Braque, Bonnard, Duchamp, Arbus, Rauschenberg, Moore, Warhol, Judd.
  • 19th: Manet, Monet, Courbet, Ingres, Watkins and/or Fenton, Turner, Degas, Van Gogh, Gauguin, Cezanne.

    To which EW said I was being too recent, that I had to stretch a little to see his point: That people drop in and out, but mostly out. History winnows its field. OK...

  • 17th: Rembrandt, Vermeer, Hals, Rubens, Bruegel, Velazquez, de la Tour, Behzad, El Greco (who, like Caravaggio, may fit better in the 16th), Ribera. (I dislike most 17thC French painting, so no Lorrain or Poussin for me.)

    By this point I was beginning to see EW's point: These are all transcedent figures; most have crossover credibility. I love Ribera but he's not Rembrandt. Robert Smithson thrills me, but my Uncle Biff has never heard of him. Biff knows Vermeer. (Though interestingly: A hundred years ago he wouldn't have. He'd have known Jan Steen instead.)

    Then EW told me to flash-forward to the 23rd century and think backwards. OK, so I feel pretty good about my 17thC and 19thC lists (I'm not sure why I/we skipped the 18th), but yeah, I started to see his point about the 20th. Maybe Arbus won't age well, maybe Duchamp will be seen as little more than a forerunner of 20thC academicism, and so on. During a biennale/fair season, when so much thinking is about the last and next six months, it's nice to force ourselves into some perspective.

    So because this is summer, I'll try something I don't do often here on MAN: I'll open the comment boards and let ya'll thrash out the 20thC. Comment like it's 2245, y'all.

    Update: Uh, yeah, Pollock should be there for the 20thC. Probably instead of Moore, though I love Moore.

  • June 18, 2007 8:43 AM | | Comments (8)

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    Diebenkorn, Frank Stella, I think Warhol will hold up, Milton Avery and Rothco.

    I think it should be clear that the following is a provisional list.

    The 21st Century:
    Allora and Calzadilla
    Kutlug Ataman
    Paul Chan
    Trisha Donnelly
    Olafur Eliasson
    Geoffrey Farmer
    Ryan Gander
    Carsten Hoeller
    Walid Raad
    Anri Sala

    Hmmm... ten is high, you could parse ten politicians, musicians or companies and have a hell of a lot of arguement to go around. maybe 7 and you can have a defendable list?

    Duchamp, Rauschenberg, Aalto, Christo, Warhol, Picasso (what a jerk), and Hirst

    Jack Kirby

    also not mentioned yet - salvador dali, bruce naumann, de kooning, jasper johns...

    In 20thC I would list Sokol, Klee and Kandinsky, I would skip Arbus and Judd.

    Oh, can I add all of my artists to that list? ;-)

    I think I know why you skipped the 18th Century - it's a tough stretch that corresponds to Rococo. My list is up to Chardin, Watteau, Fragonard, and Greuze. Frankly, that may be enough.

    I tend to think ten is high, actually, but allowing for those artists who do indeed drop in at times, I think it works.

    The list for the 20th Century by about 2410, will be, IHMO...Picasso, Matisse, Warhol, Matta-Clark (yes, I'll stick with that for now), Rauschenberg, and maybe, in no particular order, but because I suspect their influence will grow, Hesse, Richter, Twombly, possibly Guston, and (well, he might straddle Centuries) Hirst.

    But even with that list it was very hard coming up with 10 "truly great" artists.

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