But ladies, you must answer too - "what would we do without 'em"?

For the first time in a very long time, I spent an entire day with high school boys.

No, I'm not The Cougar, I simply went to the Star Trek movie and then to the Village Vanguard to see jazz pianist Brad Mehldau this past Saturday.

As previously planned, my mom, Aliza and I got to the movie theater at Lincoln Center precisely one hour and a half early for Star Trek. I'd guesstimate we were about People 29, 30 and 31 in line at that point, and out of those people, we probably doubled the number of women.

Star-Trek-line.jpgThat said, after posting about the Mother's Day/Star Trek correlation on Friday, I've received five additional reports of friends taking their mothers to the movie for Mother's Day. [I also learned, by going with a friend on Sunday, that people actually took their mothers - and daughters - to Next to Normal on Mother's Day, which is just too bizarre for me to handle. Did they know what the musical was about? More on Next to Normal's classical music bashing at a later date.]

When I was watching The Kentucky Derby a few weekends back, I was entertaining myself by pounding mint juleps and wondering if there was some young horse publicist person out there whining (whinnying?) about how everybody pays attention to The Kentucky Derby but people just aren't into horse-racing the rest of the year. How do we harness the Derby audience for other races? When will we stop young people from bridling at the costs in involved in the sport? Why are we saddled with an old, rich-person stigma? That led me to think about how every industry - even those that are flourishing - wants a specific demographic they don't yet have. A few years back, for example, the Red Sox had three players on the show Queer Eye for the Straight Guy in an attempt to reach out to the gay/lesbian communities of Boston.

If jazz publicists and marketers are not concerned with the gender situation, they certainly should be. In my (albeit limited) experience with jazz, the genre is men playing music for men. Like football. (Yes, I realize women watch football, but you see my point.) In the four years I was at Dartmouth, there was one woman in the Barbary Coast Jazz Ensemble. Girls auditioned, but none except this one was good enough to make it, apparently. I asked members of Stefon Harris' Blackout about this issue when we were at a Chamber Music America New Music Institute together, and they said most of the time women are singers in jazz, but rarely instrumentalist performers. The sign at the Village Vanguard says the capacity is 123 people. At the 11:30pm set on Saturday, I counted 17 women including myself watching the three men on stage. What is that all about? It really bothered me.

Some Google work led to these:

Yahoo - Why don't girls like jazz? One prize of a man named "george g" offered, "Because it's not lightweight music", and another gem - "Jeff Taylor" - suggested, "Although greatly generalizing I would have to say that why 'girls' (under the age of 30) as well as plenty of 'guys' don't usually like jazz is because jazz is art music and requires much *effort* to enjoy." george g. and Jeff....call me. Groan.

An NPR Women in Jazz profile -

When we think of women in jazz, we automatically think of singers, but there have been a number of female instrumentalists dating all the way back to the early 1920s. Musicologist Ingrid Monson points out that the piano, one of the earliest instruments that women played in jazz, allowed female artists a degree of social acceptance. In jazz's early years, female instrumentalists usually formed all-women jazz bands or played in family-based groups. Stepping up into the professional jazz world was a difficult feat for many women, but an interesting twist, according to author Sherrie Tucker, author of Swing Shift: All-Girl Bands of the 1940s, jazz provided better working opportunities for many African-American women.
And Women in Jazz from PBS -

Women who play jazz on saxophone, brass instruments, bass, or drums still encounter befuddled reception to their very presence: "I've never seen a woman do that!" or the ubiquitous, "You play good for a girl!" or "You play like a man!" Commentary about women in jazz still sticks at fundamental questions: Do they exist? Are they serious? Can they play?
These mostly discuss women playing jazz, whereas I'm more interested in women as jazz audience members. (Of course these things are probably related). I pounced on a friend of my friend when she told me she was a jazz trumpeter and asked if I could interview her for the blog on this topic, so hopefully I should get some answers from someone on the inside soon. If anyone knows of literature on the topic, though, please comment.

I have to say, spooked as I was by the gender imbalance, I was extremely impressed by the age range at the Mehldau concert. We were sitting behind a table of about eight high school boys (ordering soda - so cute) and next to two couples, one pair well over 60 and the other mid-40s. My kingdom for that range around me at a classical concert. So like I said, we all have our own demographic issues to grapple with.
May 11, 2009 3:03 PM | | Comments (4)

Categories:

4 Comments

I think you're asking a really good question--I didn't realize there was a shortage of women in the jazz audience. Keep at it, and let us know what you find out!

Musicologist Susan McClary has taken a lot of heat for suggesting that the the deepest structures and technical apparatus of classical music may reflect the patriarchal values of the wider society, but why should it be a surprise that an art form would deeply embody its culture's values? (McClary has also pointed out that some of the earliest bluesmen were women, but men got the credit for inventing the form.) Until very recently men were entirely in charge of public musical life, saying what music was good, what music mattered, what music would be heard, and the most basic issue: what music should sound like.

If women listeners are staying away from jazz, maybe that's because they suspect that it won't speak to them. This impression might flow from the way the music is presented, from the way it is promoted, from the way it is performed, from its sound and structure, or from all of the above. Meanwhile, just as women writers are bringing perspectives and experiences that were previously absent from literature, women musicians aren't just competing successfully with men; they are probably expanding music's possibilities.

Women instrumentalists in jazz have been comparatively few, historically, though there's never been a shortage of female jazz vocalists. But consider Carla Bley, incredible composer-bandleader-piano soloist, or Toshiko Akiyoshi, another amazing pianist; or the later Emily Remler, or Jane Bunnett, or more recently Teri Lynn Carrington, or Hiromi, to name a few. They're out there, they're gifted artists, and they deserve a much wider hearing. Compared with other genres, jazz itself has a small (but passionately devoted!) audience,but as an art form its nature is such that there are no barriers, no limits. Wherever you're from, whatever your ethnicity or background, whatever your gender (or sexual preference),this music offers every aesthetic satisfaction there is-- earthy and cerebral,nitty-gritty and abstract, introspective and gentle or boiling with rage and fire, no boundaries contain the possibilities of expression that have been liberated by jazz music. For the past 40 years critics have been pronouncing jazz dead, but for those of us who "get it," this vital art form will continue to grow and change, transcending all artificial constraints and petty labels. Through the deep empathy and honesty this music fosters among musicians, and the life-enhancing experience it provides for those listeners, women and men, who are prepared to HEAR, jazz music will continue to survive and thrive, even though 98% of humanity may choose to ignore it.

Miles Davis would be on your side of this issue. I was once told by a reliable source (a member of Davis' band) that Davis would find it upsetting if audiences were predominantly male, remarking that "it looks like a gym in here" [expletives deleted] when he perceived a gender imbalance in clubs.


Me and Miles Davis: like twins separated at birth. Thanks for commenting! -AA

The lack of women who appreciate jazz has always amazed me. I've loved it from my teens, when I started following Count Basie and Art Blakey. I had no particular reason to like it. I liked classical music and pop as well. I've grown more and more impassioned about it and write about it when I get a chance. But I hardly can ever interest a woman friend in going to performances. (I was at the Mehldau with a man friend). Some men friends have sarcastically said it's too intellectual for most women and a woman friend has said it appeals to men in their groins and women don't react to things that way. I've asked jazz musicians and they haven't been able to say. Very strange. I hope your column inspires some answers.

Leave a comment

About

Life's a Pitch Why don't we apply the successful marketing and publicity campaigns we see in our everyday lives to the performing arts? Great ideas are right there, ripe for the emulating. And who's responsible for the wide-reaching problems in ticket sales and audience development? Boring artists? Greedy managers? Overstretched marketing departments? We're beyond debating who owns the problem. Let's fix this thing.
more

Amanda Ameer left her position as Publicity Manager at IMG Artists in June 2007 to start First Chair Promotion, and currently represents Hilary Hahn, Gabriel Kahane, The King's Singers, David LangEric Owens and Hélène Grimaud.
more

Contact Click here to send an email. more

Subscribe to the Newsletter Fill in your email address here.
more

Archives

Archives: 248 entries and counting

Sites

Now Play It
This site has musicians teaching viewers how to play their most popular songs on the guitar via downloadable video. more
MOMA - Eye on Europe
This microsite for one of MOMA's 2006 exhibitions is a(n extreme) lesson in what can be done digitally for special projects (world premieres?).
more
Spoon
This website makes me feel impossibly uncool, and I love it for that very reason.
more
The Metropolitan Opera
Sometimes, when the (performing arts) world gets me down, I go to The Met's website and feel better about it all.
more

Resources

RSS Feeds 
RSS is an acronym for "RDF Site Summary," or "Rich Site Summary."  RSS is a family of XML-based Web feed formats used to publish frequently updated content such as blog entries, news headlines, and podcasts in a standardized format. 
more
YouTube 
YouTube, created in 2005, is a free video sharing website where users can upload, view, and share video clips.  YouTube uses Adobe Flash technology to display a wide variety of user-generated video content, including movie clips, TV clips, and music videos, as well as amateur content such as videoblogging and short original videos.
more
Wikipedia 
Wikipedia, created in 2001, is a multilingual, web-based, free content encyclopedia project.  Wikipedia's articles provide links to guide the user to related pages with additional information.  Articles are written collaboratively by volunteers from all around the world.  Wikipedia is one of the largest reference sites on the internet, with at least 684 million people visiting the site yearly.  It contains more than ten million articles in more than 250 languages (over two million in English alone). 
more
MySpace 
MySpace, launched in 2004, is the largest social networking website in the United States.  A free-access website, MySpace allows anyone aged 14 and over to create a personal profile.  Unlike other social networking sites, MySpace allows users to personalize their profiles by entering HTML into certain areas on their pages, thus displaying video or flash content instead of text.  Users may also customize the colors, backgrounds, and fonts on their profiles through the use of CSS (cascading style sheets). more
Facebook 
Launched in 2004, Facebook is now the second largest social networking website in the United States (behind MySpace). The free-access website allows users to easily connect and interact with other people, and it is now also possible to create a Facebook profile for an artist, band, brand, or business. Users can add themselves as "fans" of an artist or business, write on an artist/business profile's "Wall," upload photos, and join other fans in discussion groups. more
more resources

AJ Ads

Introducing
AJ Arts Blog Ads

Now you can reach the most discerning arts blog readers on the internet. Target individual blogs or topics in the ArtsJournal ad network.

Advertise Here

AJ Blogs

AJBlogCentral | rss

culture
About Last Night
Terry Teachout on the arts in New York City
Artful Manager
Andrew Taylor on the business of arts & culture
blog riley
rock culture approximately
critical difference
Laura Collins-Hughes on arts, culture and coverage
Dewey21C
Richard Kessler on arts education
diacritical
Douglas McLennan's blog
Dog Days
Dalouge Smith advocates for the Arts
Flyover
Art from the American Outback
Life's a Pitch
For immediate release: the arts are marketable
Mind the Gap
No genre is the new genre
Performance Monkey
David Jays on theatre and dance
Plain English
Paul Levy measures the Angles
Real Clear Arts
Judith H. Dobrzynski on Culture
Rockwell Matters
John Rockwell on the arts
Straight Up |
Jan Herman - arts, media & culture with 'tude

dance
Foot in Mouth
Apollinaire Scherr talks about dance
Seeing Things
Tobi Tobias on dance et al...

jazz
Jazz Beyond Jazz
Howard Mandel's freelance Urban Improvisation
ListenGood
Focus on New Orleans. Jazz and Other Sounds
Rifftides
Doug Ramsey on Jazz and other matters...

media
Out There
Jeff Weinstein's Cultural Mixology
Serious Popcorn
Martha Bayles on Film...

classical music
The Future of Classical Music?
Greg Sandow performs a book-in-progress
On the Record
Exploring Orchestras w/ Henry Fogel
Overflow
Harvey Sachs on music, and various digressions
PianoMorphosis
Bruce Brubaker on all things Piano
PostClassic
Kyle Gann on music after the fact
Sandow
Greg Sandow on the future of Classical Music
Slipped Disc
Norman Lebrecht on Shifting Sound Worlds

publishing
book/daddy
Jerome Weeks on Books
Quick Study
Scott McLemee on books, ideas & trash-culture ephemera

theatre
Drama Queen
Wendy Rosenfield: covering drama, onstage and off
lies like truth
Chloe Veltman on how culture will save the world

visual
Aesthetic Grounds
Public Art, Public Space
Another Bouncing Ball
Regina Hackett takes her Art To Go
Artopia
John Perreault's art diary
CultureGrrl
Lee Rosenbaum's Cultural Commentary
Modern Art Notes
Tyler Green's modern & contemporary art blog
Creative Commons License
This weblog is licensed under a Creative Commons License.