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		<title>Comment on Would YOU call these &#8220;Tough Times&#8221;? by Eddie Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 01:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great point. Our local daily, The Star Telegram, has been slacking here. Our weekly, The Fort Worth Weekly, does a good job though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point. Our local daily, The Star Telegram, has been slacking here. Our weekly, The Fort Worth Weekly, does a good job though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would YOU call these &#8220;Tough Times&#8221;? by Ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t personally buy into the &quot;tough times&quot; philosophy; it&#039;s a way to place blame on others instead of accepting our own responsibility. We need to be innovative. We need to realize our own faults. We need to find new partners. We need to make better cases for ourselves. We need to succeed. &quot;Tough times&quot; are simply a way to wash our hands and say failure is someone else&#039;s fault.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t personally buy into the &#8220;tough times&#8221; philosophy; it&#8217;s a way to place blame on others instead of accepting our own responsibility. We need to be innovative. We need to realize our own faults. We need to find new partners. We need to make better cases for ourselves. We need to succeed. &#8220;Tough times&#8221; are simply a way to wash our hands and say failure is someone else&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would YOU call these &#8220;Tough Times&#8221;? by Clay Mabbitt</title>
		<link>http://www.artsjournal.com/audience/2013/04/would-you-call-these-tough-times/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Mabbitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are times of tremendous change. For arts organizations who are the big dogs in their respective markets, change equals tough. The tactics they used to develop their audience up to this point are losing effectiveness. It forces them to get hungry with their marketing at a time when they had probably assumed they would be able to coast a little.

For the up and coming groups that are still trying to carve out market share, all of these changes are the best possible thing that could happen. The playing field is level. Since it&#039;s becoming less certain what promotional tactics are most effective for cultivating an audience, the larger resources available to existing organizations isn&#039;t such an overwhelming advantage. It&#039;s a great time for new and small organizations to make a splash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are times of tremendous change. For arts organizations who are the big dogs in their respective markets, change equals tough. The tactics they used to develop their audience up to this point are losing effectiveness. It forces them to get hungry with their marketing at a time when they had probably assumed they would be able to coast a little.</p>
<p>For the up and coming groups that are still trying to carve out market share, all of these changes are the best possible thing that could happen. The playing field is level. Since it&#8217;s becoming less certain what promotional tactics are most effective for cultivating an audience, the larger resources available to existing organizations isn&#8217;t such an overwhelming advantage. It&#8217;s a great time for new and small organizations to make a splash.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would YOU call these &#8220;Tough Times&#8221;? by Leonard Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonard Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Respectfully, that&#039;s not what &quot;“be more entrepreneurial” means. And Matt, I feel your frustration. Indeed, your frustration is not unwarranted. But equally so, we&#039;re not operating in an elegant and perfect black-and-white world. For each example you provide, I can think off the top of my head of an example that flies in the face of it. Maybe it chiefly depends on the source -- on knowing the difference between those who blithely blurt out “be more entrepreneurial” because they want people to go away and those who say “be more entrepreneurial&quot; because, well, they really do mean “be more entrepreneurial.&quot; The cold, nasty, unfortunate, maddening and infuriating truth, Matt, is that far too many nonprofit leaders and thinkers and doers think &quot;entrepreneurial” is a dirty word. Well, it&#039;s not. It wasn&#039;t a dirty word yesterday and it&#039;s not a dirty word today and it still won&#039;t be a dirty word tomorrow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respectfully, that&#8217;s not what &#8220;“be more entrepreneurial” means. And Matt, I feel your frustration. Indeed, your frustration is not unwarranted. But equally so, we&#8217;re not operating in an elegant and perfect black-and-white world. For each example you provide, I can think off the top of my head of an example that flies in the face of it. Maybe it chiefly depends on the source &#8212; on knowing the difference between those who blithely blurt out “be more entrepreneurial” because they want people to go away and those who say “be more entrepreneurial&#8221; because, well, they really do mean “be more entrepreneurial.&#8221; The cold, nasty, unfortunate, maddening and infuriating truth, Matt, is that far too many nonprofit leaders and thinkers and doers think &#8220;entrepreneurial” is a dirty word. Well, it&#8217;s not. It wasn&#8217;t a dirty word yesterday and it&#8217;s not a dirty word today and it still won&#8217;t be a dirty word tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would YOU call these &#8220;Tough Times&#8221;? by Melody Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I work for a modest visual arts organization and state craft center in Vermont and I can attest to this being true for our world as well. I&#039;ve pretty much given up on newspaper advertising except for our small local paper. Most won&#039;t print press releases unless you are running regular display ads and that is just not possible in today&#039;s economy. We get the word out via Facebook postings, and believe it or not, old fashioned posters have worked surprisingly well (for our fundraisers). We&#039;re conducting a market survey and so far 98% of our visitors (in March/April) were recommended by a friend or family member. We are next door to a restaurant accounting for the other 2%. Fine art sales have not recovered since 2008. Crafts sales are keeping pace but we sell a lot of smalls, not many big ticket items, since 2008. Fortunately for us were never dependent on grant funding before 2008 (although it helped), and that has actually worked in our favor post 2008. The local music &amp; performance-based organization disbanded completely. But thankfully a group of younger people are meeting to try and fill this need (and there definitely is one). It is my gut feeling that some of these older established groups got burned out, organizations really have to take care and pass the torch off to those with fresh and new ideas. I&#039;ve seen more than one organization falter due to &quot;founders syndrome&quot; or a great fear of new ideas. Perhaps &quot;be more innovative&quot; would be a better phrase than &quot;be more entrepreneurial&quot;? Sometimes you have to really change things up to get good results, or to attract a broader audience. Stretch your brain, shake things up, create excitement!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a modest visual arts organization and state craft center in Vermont and I can attest to this being true for our world as well. I&#8217;ve pretty much given up on newspaper advertising except for our small local paper. Most won&#8217;t print press releases unless you are running regular display ads and that is just not possible in today&#8217;s economy. We get the word out via Facebook postings, and believe it or not, old fashioned posters have worked surprisingly well (for our fundraisers). We&#8217;re conducting a market survey and so far 98% of our visitors (in March/April) were recommended by a friend or family member. We are next door to a restaurant accounting for the other 2%. Fine art sales have not recovered since 2008. Crafts sales are keeping pace but we sell a lot of smalls, not many big ticket items, since 2008. Fortunately for us were never dependent on grant funding before 2008 (although it helped), and that has actually worked in our favor post 2008. The local music &amp; performance-based organization disbanded completely. But thankfully a group of younger people are meeting to try and fill this need (and there definitely is one). It is my gut feeling that some of these older established groups got burned out, organizations really have to take care and pass the torch off to those with fresh and new ideas. I&#8217;ve seen more than one organization falter due to &#8220;founders syndrome&#8221; or a great fear of new ideas. Perhaps &#8220;be more innovative&#8221; would be a better phrase than &#8220;be more entrepreneurial&#8221;? Sometimes you have to really change things up to get good results, or to attract a broader audience. Stretch your brain, shake things up, create excitement!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would YOU call these &#8220;Tough Times&#8221;? by cgeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>cgeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 03:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One idea:

Each organization must analyze it strengths and its most valuable donors and sources of funds. They must work closely with them to find the way forward. 

Contradicts the other:

They must be ready to cast aside the way they have always worked and find new ways.

Aren&#039;t most organizations trying to survive this downturn already embracing their most reliable donors, and doubling down on playing it safe, to please those donors?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One idea:</p>
<p>Each organization must analyze it strengths and its most valuable donors and sources of funds. They must work closely with them to find the way forward. </p>
<p>Contradicts the other:</p>
<p>They must be ready to cast aside the way they have always worked and find new ways.</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t most organizations trying to survive this downturn already embracing their most reliable donors, and doubling down on playing it safe, to please those donors?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would YOU call these &#8220;Tough Times&#8221;? by Ann Morrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Morrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To say it isn&#039;t a struggle would be wrong. But if an organization is going to succeed they have to push past all the negative numbers, press and general feeling that there is no hope. Each organization must analyze it strengths and its most valuable donors and sources of funds. They must work closely with them to find the way forward. They must be ready to cast aside the way they have always worked and find new ways. Look for the opportunities. Don&#039;t be afraid to try new things. Take your organization and its assets to the audience if you can&#039;t get them to come to you. It is always easier to settle for a scaled back organization than the struggle to move forward, to risk and to meet new challenges. Don&#039;t we owe it to the people serve to keep trying and to make our organization something they will treasure and fight for along with us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say it isn&#8217;t a struggle would be wrong. But if an organization is going to succeed they have to push past all the negative numbers, press and general feeling that there is no hope. Each organization must analyze it strengths and its most valuable donors and sources of funds. They must work closely with them to find the way forward. They must be ready to cast aside the way they have always worked and find new ways. Look for the opportunities. Don&#8217;t be afraid to try new things. Take your organization and its assets to the audience if you can&#8217;t get them to come to you. It is always easier to settle for a scaled back organization than the struggle to move forward, to risk and to meet new challenges. Don&#8217;t we owe it to the people serve to keep trying and to make our organization something they will treasure and fight for along with us?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Would YOU call these &#8220;Tough Times&#8221;? by paul morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 01:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Certainly these are challenging times for the arts. I&#039;m interested in the decline in arts journalism on a local level. The local newspapers no longer have reviews of concerts or museum and gallery shows. Dance performances and theater are rarely noted. (I do see occasional articles about upcoming shows based on interviews with performers but these are in the voice of the performer, allowing little room for the reporter&#039;s ideas about the art form.) I have to think the editorial assumption is that the arts are of marginal interest to their readership.  

Is it any surprise that arts groups are reducing their advertising investments in the local papers? The movies are the only art form reviewed and considered in the local papers. (Consider the sizable investment in movie advertising.) What&#039;s a chamber music series or a theater group do to get noticed? The newspaper is no longer a smart media investment in promoting the arts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly these are challenging times for the arts. I&#8217;m interested in the decline in arts journalism on a local level. The local newspapers no longer have reviews of concerts or museum and gallery shows. Dance performances and theater are rarely noted. (I do see occasional articles about upcoming shows based on interviews with performers but these are in the voice of the performer, allowing little room for the reporter&#8217;s ideas about the art form.) I have to think the editorial assumption is that the arts are of marginal interest to their readership.  </p>
<p>Is it any surprise that arts groups are reducing their advertising investments in the local papers? The movies are the only art form reviewed and considered in the local papers. (Consider the sizable investment in movie advertising.) What&#8217;s a chamber music series or a theater group do to get noticed? The newspaper is no longer a smart media investment in promoting the arts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Rose By Any Other Name &#8230;  Doesn&#8217;t Sell by Richard Layman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Layman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think a lot of the coverage on JCP has missed the mark, because there were three things going on with Ron Johnson&#039;s strategy, one made a lot of sense and one was a big mistake and one had promise but not in every store, and there was plenty of experience at other retailers which should have made that obvious.

1.  You write that &quot;people want prices to fool us&quot; (quoting from the NYT).  Yes, JCP went to every day low pricing.  This was the strategy followed by Macys after their merger of variously named chains into one national chain, even though the May Co., which they acquired, used coupons and sales to drive traffic to the stores.  Macys lost a lot of business until they changed back.  JCP should have been aware of this.

While the NYT says that people want prices to be lower to seem like we need a deal, I think the other lesson that all of the coverage seems to have missed is that people need &quot;nudges&quot; or excuses to go out and shop and buy--especially when we don&#039;t really need something.  (E.g., I want a nice Kitchen Aid mixer for baking, but I haven&#039;t bought one yet.  Every time I see the product featured in the Macy&#039;s ads, I start thinking about getting one--although we need to finish the hutch for the dining room first, so we have some place to put it...)

So sales and coupons help push us to go out and buy or to remind us, when we need reminders. especially for discretionary items that we don&#039;t really need.  That&#039;s a different element from what the NYT wrote.

I am not sure how that realization can be leveraged by arts organizations.  Maybe as you point out, there needs to be more of a sales orientation by arts organizations, maybe it&#039;s more about market segmentation.

The reality is that you have your core audience and your interested but needing to be reminded audience and then totally new audiences.  Each needs a different strategy for pricing, marketing, and sales.

Certain audiences will buy anyway, and lowering your price through a sale just leaves money on the table.

Or you can change the price to make part of the ticket a donation, etc.

There are lots of opportunities to think differently here.

2.  changing merchandise to be more hip.  What JCP should have done is organize their store footprint into similar demographic clusters, and if there was demand for different kinds of merchandise (like European cut suits) in some of the stores, then they should have changed the selection.  But they just introduced the new stuff everywhere.  I think about the JCP store I saw in Bend, Oregon.  I can&#039;t imagine there was a lot of demand for such suits there.

The relevance of this to arts organizations has to do with the urban vs. suburban divide and presenting edgy vs. safe programming.  Interestingly, the AFI Silver Docs documentary program--AFI moved from DC to Silver Spring Maryland, just outside of DC, a few years ago--this year they are shifting many of the venues to DC, whereas before all had been at the AFI Silver Theatre in Silver Spring.

I think that&#039;s because in arts the equivalent of European style suits are harder to sell in the suburbs, and because urban people (at least in DC) forgot or come up with reasons to not travel out to the suburbs, unless the European style suits there are really really really special, enough to overcome their inertia not to buy or not to go far away in order to buy, when instead there are substitute products available locally.

(Note also that spreading venues is also a way to introduce audiences to different or &quot;new to them&quot; locations and organizations.

3.  But the idea of shifting store organization and marketing and branding and specialization to &quot;stores within a store&quot; was a good one.  Adding name-&quot;r&quot; brands like Martha Stewart makes sense to differentiate their offerings, and provide people with more reasons to shop at JCP.   

The lesson here is trickier.  It depends on the discipline, the range of available programming within that discipline in your community, whether or not you have the capacity within your organization to broaden your offerings etc.  (this is discussed in the present blog entry in &quot;Real Clear Arts&quot; about the Denver Art Museum.

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In direct marketing when you test changes typically you change only one thing at a time.  (There are other statistical techniques which allow you to test multiple changes simultaneously.)  The reporting on the failures at JCP are an illustration of why this is--when multiple changes are made and multiple responses are occurring, it&#039;s very possible to misinterpret the results.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of the coverage on JCP has missed the mark, because there were three things going on with Ron Johnson&#8217;s strategy, one made a lot of sense and one was a big mistake and one had promise but not in every store, and there was plenty of experience at other retailers which should have made that obvious.</p>
<p>1.  You write that &#8220;people want prices to fool us&#8221; (quoting from the NYT).  Yes, JCP went to every day low pricing.  This was the strategy followed by Macys after their merger of variously named chains into one national chain, even though the May Co., which they acquired, used coupons and sales to drive traffic to the stores.  Macys lost a lot of business until they changed back.  JCP should have been aware of this.</p>
<p>While the NYT says that people want prices to be lower to seem like we need a deal, I think the other lesson that all of the coverage seems to have missed is that people need &#8220;nudges&#8221; or excuses to go out and shop and buy&#8211;especially when we don&#8217;t really need something.  (E.g., I want a nice Kitchen Aid mixer for baking, but I haven&#8217;t bought one yet.  Every time I see the product featured in the Macy&#8217;s ads, I start thinking about getting one&#8211;although we need to finish the hutch for the dining room first, so we have some place to put it&#8230;)</p>
<p>So sales and coupons help push us to go out and buy or to remind us, when we need reminders. especially for discretionary items that we don&#8217;t really need.  That&#8217;s a different element from what the NYT wrote.</p>
<p>I am not sure how that realization can be leveraged by arts organizations.  Maybe as you point out, there needs to be more of a sales orientation by arts organizations, maybe it&#8217;s more about market segmentation.</p>
<p>The reality is that you have your core audience and your interested but needing to be reminded audience and then totally new audiences.  Each needs a different strategy for pricing, marketing, and sales.</p>
<p>Certain audiences will buy anyway, and lowering your price through a sale just leaves money on the table.</p>
<p>Or you can change the price to make part of the ticket a donation, etc.</p>
<p>There are lots of opportunities to think differently here.</p>
<p>2.  changing merchandise to be more hip.  What JCP should have done is organize their store footprint into similar demographic clusters, and if there was demand for different kinds of merchandise (like European cut suits) in some of the stores, then they should have changed the selection.  But they just introduced the new stuff everywhere.  I think about the JCP store I saw in Bend, Oregon.  I can&#8217;t imagine there was a lot of demand for such suits there.</p>
<p>The relevance of this to arts organizations has to do with the urban vs. suburban divide and presenting edgy vs. safe programming.  Interestingly, the AFI Silver Docs documentary program&#8211;AFI moved from DC to Silver Spring Maryland, just outside of DC, a few years ago&#8211;this year they are shifting many of the venues to DC, whereas before all had been at the AFI Silver Theatre in Silver Spring.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s because in arts the equivalent of European style suits are harder to sell in the suburbs, and because urban people (at least in DC) forgot or come up with reasons to not travel out to the suburbs, unless the European style suits there are really really really special, enough to overcome their inertia not to buy or not to go far away in order to buy, when instead there are substitute products available locally.</p>
<p>(Note also that spreading venues is also a way to introduce audiences to different or &#8220;new to them&#8221; locations and organizations.</p>
<p>3.  But the idea of shifting store organization and marketing and branding and specialization to &#8220;stores within a store&#8221; was a good one.  Adding name-&#8221;r&#8221; brands like Martha Stewart makes sense to differentiate their offerings, and provide people with more reasons to shop at JCP.   </p>
<p>The lesson here is trickier.  It depends on the discipline, the range of available programming within that discipline in your community, whether or not you have the capacity within your organization to broaden your offerings etc.  (this is discussed in the present blog entry in &#8220;Real Clear Arts&#8221; about the Denver Art Museum.</p>
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In direct marketing when you test changes typically you change only one thing at a time.  (There are other statistical techniques which allow you to test multiple changes simultaneously.)  The reporting on the failures at JCP are an illustration of why this is&#8211;when multiple changes are made and multiple responses are occurring, it&#8217;s very possible to misinterpret the results.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Rose By Any Other Name &#8230;  Doesn&#8217;t Sell by paul moris</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul moris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good ideas here. Dynamic pricing is a valuable tool in maximizing profits. We see it in the airlines, cruise ships, and lodging industries. For example, hotels publish a range of prices for each room. What they sell the room for varies each day, month and season of the year. As occupancy increases, you raise your prices (rooms are scarce and more valuable). If you have lots of occupancy, you open up sales at lower rates. And they offer ways to &quot;add on&quot; to your experience when you do visit (linking food, beverages, access to special events). Of course these industries know you have to renovate your product and keep it fresh in some way if it&#039;s to be appealing. 

I hadn&#039;t been to a JC Penney&#039;s store in a decade but during the last year, I&#039;ve been twice. I wasn&#039;t drawn by the pricing but rather by their likable new advertising and promotion materials that made their clothing seem attractive (and reasonably priced). Their CEO renovated the stores&#039; look and product line--and made sure I learned about it. He was doing something right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good ideas here. Dynamic pricing is a valuable tool in maximizing profits. We see it in the airlines, cruise ships, and lodging industries. For example, hotels publish a range of prices for each room. What they sell the room for varies each day, month and season of the year. As occupancy increases, you raise your prices (rooms are scarce and more valuable). If you have lots of occupancy, you open up sales at lower rates. And they offer ways to &#8220;add on&#8221; to your experience when you do visit (linking food, beverages, access to special events). Of course these industries know you have to renovate your product and keep it fresh in some way if it&#8217;s to be appealing. </p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t been to a JC Penney&#8217;s store in a decade but during the last year, I&#8217;ve been twice. I wasn&#8217;t drawn by the pricing but rather by their likable new advertising and promotion materials that made their clothing seem attractive (and reasonably priced). Their CEO renovated the stores&#8217; look and product line&#8211;and made sure I learned about it. He was doing something right.</p>
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